1. "You ever hear about how the victors write the history books?" We were the losers of WW1. The winners did open courts to punish Turkish war criminals. They had the Ottoman Sultan's support as the ones that was sued were his political enemies. Entire Ottoman archive was open to the winners. And only a few ever found guilty. And no Turkish government policy against Armenian population has been found. The winners did write the history. We were not one of them. 2. "who exactly were those Kurdish Tribes being led by?" Their tribal leaders. Kurds had a vendetta with Armenians dating from the time of Sasanids and Romans which was never forgotten. At 1915, Turkish army was fighting on 4 fronts and overcommitted. There was not enough forces to stop an ethnical war which was by the way started by Armenians (which every historian agreed on). In Eastern Anatolia Turks, Kurds and Armenians killed aech other by thousands. My Grandfather's village (A Kurdish village) assaulted by Armenian bandits who killed nearly half of the village population. 3. "I thought all Turks were Turks, no differences?" Every citisens of Turkish republic is referred officially as Turk. Like all American citisens are called Americans or German citisens are called German. There are many different ethnical groups in Turkey. A short list is: Turks, Kurds, Armenians, Suryanis, Circassians, Georgians, Laz, Greeks, Jews, Italians (remaining from Italian colonies of Genoa), Nogays, Abhasians, Albanians, Bosnians. There are some others that I have forgotten. More than that most of Turks are a mixture of many different ethnicities. Cross marriages were/are very common in Turkey. 4. "Point out a single racist statement i made." This is the 2nd time you asked me this. And I have pointed out. You may not notice that you are a racist or culturalist; but you are very prejudgemental and have general opinions about cultures and group of peoples. For example saying "All Turks are ...." or "All Jews are .... " is a inhereantly racist. 5. In my country it is free to say there was an Armenian Genocide. It is not a crime. I do not know from where you get this one. 6. Turkey is a mulicultural country. Most of the Turks have a lineage of many different ethnicities. For example I know that I have Kurd and Caucasian ancestors in the family. And Turks are very proud of their multiculture. So you are again being prejudgemental in the subject.

"In my country it is free to say there was an Armenian Genocide. It is not a crime. I do not know from where you get this one". What about the "Orhan Pamuk" case?

Orhan Pamuk is sued for insulting Turkish people not for anything else. And case did not begin yet. Even found quilty he will only have to pay a small money penalty. He just showed off to take attention for Nobel literature prize.

Yada yada, but but but. Whatever.

"Orhan Pamuk is sued for insulting Turkish people not for anything else." His Freedom of Speech is being violated, and there is even a Turkish law to support it! Amble evidence that Turkey is not a well-functioning democracy that has no place in the EU. To see Pars and Kane accuse people of rascism, when they themselves have beliefs that qualify for rascism is hypocritical: Pars: Everything that has ever gone wrong for Turks and Turkey, is because of foreigners. Kane: Europeans are stupid barbarians, while Turks are a great culture. Evil Americans invade countries for oil, while the West sponsors terrorism to weaken Turkey. and so forth ad nauseam. The general argument on this page from Pars and Kane is that the Armenian genocide is excusable because there was some sort of rebellion/uprising against Turkish rule. Wrong. Wrong. and extra wrong. Genocide is never excusable, it is never allowed. If there really was an uprising, the proper thing to do was to put it down with minimal loss of civilian life, not go about slaugthering everybody who happened to have the same ethnicity as the rebels. Turks most learn that there are differences between explaining something and excusing something. And that is why I am glad to see that Turkey apparently also contains individuals like Titan. Gives me hope that someday Pars and Kane too will get over their "We are the best and can do nothing wrong" attitude.

"Pars: Everything that has ever gone wrong for Turks and Turkey, is because of foreigners." I never said such a stupid sentence. I do not see how lying can improve your point. Genocide is not excusable. I agree. Putting down a revolt is a much different thing than a genocide. During WW1 no Armenian living in West Anatolia has been hurt. Yes revolt has been surprassed rather heavily. But so did Britain surprassed Irish revolt at WW1 also heavily. And in all definitions of genocide; if an ethnicity in some part of a nation not harmed but in other part killed in a rebellion, it is not a genocide it is a rebellion. And in Armenian-Ottoman conflict during WW1 as much Turks has been killed (by Armenians) as Armenians. Now should we call it also Turkish genocide. It was bloody. Civilians were killed at both sides. Not only Turks and Armenians but also Kurds are involved. They killed and were killed by both sides. It was a revolt. It was a chaos.

"Gives me hope that someday Pars and Kane too will get over their "We are the best and can do nothing wrong" attitude. " Turkey does everything wrong.Always wrong policy.This shows us like a cruel country. Orhan Pamuk says: "i didn't say ottomans killed armenians.i said 30 000 Kurd and a million Armenians were killed but media changes these sentences." Turks were also killed in those days by armenians and kurds. we show every proof but armenians has no proof.Of course supporting Armenia is better because their religion is similar to you(europe) and this can seperate Turkey.These lies are just for damaging Turkey. +historians found many fake pictures and showed were they belong.

"Turks were also killed in those days by armenians and kurds." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide#Genocide What distinguishes the Armenian Genocide was that it was the systematic and organized attempt by Turkey to eradicate an entire ethnicity. It was unlike anything ever seen in the history of mankind because it was not simply a random outburst of emotion against some other group (like the Jew progroms of Europe or the extinction of the Native Americans). It was a systematic effort by the Turkish state. The fact that there existed a network of camps where the effort was organized is amble evidence that we are dealing with an act more sinister and callous then ever before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide#Camps There was even a special unit designed to facilitate the extermination of the Armenians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide#Special_Organization_.28Te.C5.9Fkilat-.C4.B1_Mahsusa.29 The similarity to what would latter become the Holocaust in Europe are obvious to anyone. What we are dealing with here is world history's first example of genocide. The claim that Armenians were killing Turks are an excuse. Armenian persecution of Turks doesn't appear to be systematic or organized. And it still doesn't justify the murder of more then 1 million Armenians. "we show every proof but armenians has no proof" It is not really that simple. A vast and growing number of countries, organizations, and individuals across the world have now recognized that would took place in Armenia was in fact a genocide. The opinion that it was not a genocide is held by some, but far from all, Turkish historians. Both sides agree to the same line of events in general, but disagree on whether or not it constitutes a genocide. "Of course supporting Armenia is better because their religion is similar to you(europe)" Are the Kurds Christians? Are the Iraqi's? Are the Israeli's? The Armenians are neither Protestant nor Catholic, but Armenian Orthodox. Meaning that they don't really share religion with anyone else (just like Ethiopia, India or Japan) Besides, I seriously doubt the existence of some Christian Coalition directed against non-Christian people. If you believe otherwise, please supply me with your evidence and your source. "and this can seperate Turkey.These lies are just for damaging Turkey." I can hardly be expected to take this seriously if you do not come forth with your evidence. "+historians found many fake pictures and showed were they belong." But were are your evidence? And what is your source? Seems to me you have a prety weak case here. And even if(and I emphasize IF) you can prove a picture or two wrong, what does it prove? Can you prove that the entire Armenian Genocide never happened? Can you prove that there was indeed no systematic effort to exterminate the Armenians by the Turks?

I ask again: What about the SHAMEFUL Orhan Pamuk case? Will my compatriots here continue to defend Turkish court? There shouldn't have been a trial in the first place. This is absurd and doesn't happen in a modern democracy.

"Gives me hope that someday Pars and Kane too will get over their "We are the best and can do nothing wrong" attitude. " Thanks, but people who truly believe in democracy, freedom of speech, rights of minorities etc.. are still a minority in Turkey I'm afraid.