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Subject: A message to all Westerners and Turks
Volkan the Turk    10/9/2005 10:30:38 AM
I am a Turk who grew up in Australia, but i am a Turk. And my children will be Turkish. And i have completely integrated into Australian western culture, without losing my identity. I was elected the captain of my school thru peers, i got the top mark in the university examinations, and i am part of many cultural and charitable organisations. But along side this i am also the president of turkish student assoication and many other Turkish culture activities. I will not lose my Turkish identity because i love my country, i love my culture, and i love my people. Futhermore, thru out thousands of years our forefathers sacrificed their lives, without thinking twice, so that we may remain Turkish. I will not insult them by forgetting about their sacrifice. When it comes to us being to nationalistic, there is no such thing. I would die for my country, if it was in any threat at all. Without thinking twice. I will spend my whole life conserving our culture and language. What can be to extreme is ignorance. And dont confuse this with patrotism. Ignorance is idiots on this forum calling for a war with Turkey. Ignorance is claiming all those racsist comments being exclaimed about Turkey by Europeans in this forum. With attitudes like that no wonder the Euro-Turks have a hard time integrating. You guys claim there is a culture gap, but looking at the comments made on this forum by the Europeans, i am even more proud to be Turkish. Atleast, even though we are obviuosly biased, we still have a common humanity in us. Do you honestly think that your country is so fantastic that we want to leave our beloved homes and come to you cold, crowded, foreign nation? Even though we know the racsism, cold heartedness, and bigortory that lies ahead? Of course we dont you uneducated idiots! We do so, so that our children will have better lives. What did you do to deserve a better life? what the F**K right do you have to look down upon anyone you is different and poor. You were born into your lives! And if you were born in Turkey or any poor nation, how would u feel, working day and night, and still not being able to give you kids 1 tenth of what some lazy bigot in a European welfare state can give their kids? Have some humanity, have some brains. We are muslim, so bloody what? Does that mean all Christians are good? No! Does that mean all muslims are good? NO! You all look on TV and see muslim terorists, but terorism is increasing as it is being more and more advertised and muslims are being more and more prosecutes againsts. Plus since when have Turks been terorists? Plus no one mentioned terorism when Aremenians were excuting and bombing our embassies? No one mentioned terorism when muslims in Azerbajcan were being killed. No one mentioned terorism when Cyprus was cleansing Turks. Dont get me wrong. IM not religious at all. And im sure alot of biased has been in the pro-Turkish media which i am influenced by. BUT the difference is we can realise this. We arent blind enough to think we are all holy and mighty and the foreigners want our land. Think of it from the other persons view. In Australia, Arabs are the ones prosecuted against. And likewise, they seem to underperform and are involved in alot of crime. In nation surveys, Turks in Australia seem to be among the top few most successful ethnicities along with the Asian countries. This shows, that even though Turks came here much later then Germany, we can succeed if the country allows us too. Id like to relay a final message to all my Turkish kindred, never lose your Turkishness. Never lose our language or culture. We belong together. No matter where in this world we may travel, never forget that tens of millions thru out history have given and devouted their whole lives so that we may keep our culture and our heritage. Never forget you are who you are because of them. Meet and integrate, but never lose and forget. And a final message to the west, get over it. Forget what people's race or religion is. Keep you own culture. If you only accepted foreigners as people and not as some different lower race, they wouldnt be in crime or have less opportunities. Racsism is a thing of the past. You can say all you want, but not accepting a country into Europe, even though you need us, even though if you reject us into the EU your going to have to allow migration from Africa and the MIddle east at increasing rates to substitute your declining population (im doing an honours in Economics so i know what im talking about). So your going to have to take in people from different cultures anyway. It might aswell be Turks, who are a mix of east and west culture. If anyone would like to ask or talk to me my email is [email protected]
 
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G-Dog    An American Turk   1/26/2008 1:16:39 PM
I was born in New Jersey, USA.  I was as well Captain of my baseball team and have won awards along with it as well as played American Football.  I was a member of school groups both voluntary and elected.  What stopped me from furthering in sports was my integration into society.  I'm proud of both my US birth and my strong roots and ancestry to Turkey. 
 
What some people must do is take off their blinders and view things both ways.  Turkey doesn't need to be in the EU.  Just look at their hooliganism.  That would be a bad influence onto Turkish hooligans.  And Europe are the biggest terrorists in the history.  And why are we in your supposed lands that you stole for a dollar or took away from the aboriginees, is because our parents were and are good people who came and brought their craft with them.  They didn't think that they would have to deal with spoiled rotten so called natives. 
 
And another coment.  I'm not proud of being Turkish because as soon as England called them Turkey, there should have been a war.  Now we Turks have to deal with it and it's very annoying.  It has detered my growth by dealing with unnesecary comments in the classroom and outside as well.  What did I do?  I defended myself.  It worked in my case but not everyone could have as well as I did.  England needs to check themselves along with their descendents because I'm not impressed. 
 
Sorry for some of my rude comments and insults, but enough is enough.
 
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G-Dog    An American Turk   1/27/2008 12:10:32 PM
My above comment was out of line.  To the youth and everyone for that matter, any aggressive actions is wrong.  I didn't mean to say war.  I was writing out of aggression myself and fustrated with the many posts I've been reading singling out Turks.  In reality war equals murder, death, and hysteria.  It is what it is and the naming of Turkey I believe wasn't meant for any harm.  And I do respect the English and their descendants as I've become friends with many and hold dear those friendships and many of their accomplishments that have brought about many advances to the human race.  Let bygones be bygones.  As well I wish that terrorism isn't singled out by an ethnic group but by mentally ill people within groups.  I know for sure being from a Turkish and Muslim background that my family and I are opposed to any acts of terrorism and the killing of innocent lives.  I can honeslty say that I'm proud of my Turkishness.
 
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Have a happy 2008! 
 
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G-Dog       1/27/2008 12:17:41 PM

I was born in New Jersey, USA.  I was as well Captain of my baseball team and have won awards along with it as well as played American Football.  I was a member of school groups both voluntary and elected.  What stopped me from furthering in sports was my integration into society.  I'm proud of both my US birth and my strong roots and ancestry to Turkey. 

 

What some people must do is take off their blinders and view things both ways.  Turkey doesn't need to be in the EU.  Just look at their hooliganism.  That would be a bad influence onto Turkish hooligans.  Our parents were and are good people who came and brought their craft with them. 

 

 



 
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RockyMTNClimber       1/28/2008 1:49:57 PM
If we were too single out one group to focus on with regard to terrorism it wouldn't be the Turks. I would think the Saudis and certain parts of Pakistan should be the first under the micro-scope. Support for Radical Islamics should be illegal in the EU and ME just like Naziism is in Germany.  
 
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