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Subject: USA's Friends
Mike    5/5/2002 1:20:50 AM
Who are USA's friends right now? I mean Friends, not just temporary allies. Russia? Israel? China? EU? UK? Leprechauns? I mean do we actually have friends? We don't even pay UN dues! Does anybody actually love us? Who?
 
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Panther    Okoshka   2/7/2004 1:51:00 AM
Then you apparently don't know this american very well! I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, if you so wish to give me the same! Your choice. Regards
 
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ace    RE:Americans and Jews?   2/7/2004 4:35:12 PM
"This is ridiculous, Israel and USA are close allies not because of the WW2, but because of the Middle East situation. As soon as USA won't need oil (or less) Israel is toast!" Ok, lets take a moment to see what is wrong with that..... the allience between US and Isriel does the complete oposite, don't you remember how iraq cut off oil supplies to the US because it was supporting Isriel? so, there goes your oil theory, unless you can come up with a new argument to support it.
 
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ace    RE:To NewGuy   2/7/2004 4:50:33 PM
without the USSR, britain would have eventually fallen. north africa would hve been re-invaded and taken over. it would have baisicaly been a war of japan+Germany vs USA, in which the US would have probably been crushed, unless it resorted in using the nuclear bomb on a daily baisis. if the US hadn't entered the war, as CanadianBaron said, ussr and britain would have probebly won eventually, but would suffer massive casualties and an economical dissaster, and that is asuming that japan does nothing. if japan had attacked and invaded the USSR instead of Pearl Harbour, europe would have fallen.
 
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wait.wat?    WW2 DEBATE   2/8/2004 3:58:31 PM
This is all bull, if the US wasn't in the war the USSR would have (if at all) barely won. If USSR wasn't in the war, the US would most likely have also barely won (if at all). In fact, if USSR wasn't in the war, the argument can be made, the US would not have joined in. They would see Germany's very clear advantage and try to avoid conflict with Germany (though probably not Japan). So let's agree, the US and the USSR had each other's back, and therefore, the Americans and the Soviets are all awesome. Except for the Brits, those limeys suck!
 
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InFuSeR    ww2   2/8/2004 4:33:10 PM
"japan+Germany vs USA, in which the US would have probably been crushed, unless it resorted in using the nuclear bomb on a daily baisis." Thats to funny USA could and would crush japen & germany at the same time if it wanted to. So you even know how much the usa did. let me give you some facts son. Wartime GDP of the Great Powers 1938 to 1945 in International Dollars and 1990 Prices (billions)* Country 1938 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 USA 800 869 943 1094 1235 1399 1499 1474 UK 284 287 316 344 353 361 346 331 France 186 199 164 130 116 110 93 101 Italy 141 151 147 144 145 137 117 92 USSR 359 366 417 359 274 305 362 343 Germany 351 384 387 412 417 426 437 310 Austria 24 27 27 29 27 28 29 12 Japan 169 184 192 196 197 194 189 144 As you can see usa out doubles germany & japan combined even in 1938. USA would have pounded japen but naval and germany from air. Also 1942-1943 and on usa tanks where better then the germans pazers (besides the panther/tiger) but by 1945 usa matched the pather/tiger with the m26 and a few months later would have built the T28 with a 105mm gun which outclassed all germany tanks. I agree it would have been harder if the ussr wasnt in the war or the other way around but overall the allies would have won even if germany didnt invaded russia most likey they wouldnt have gotting accross the sea. USA would have never been defeated in ww2 thats a fact we could make 20+ planes for one made by the axis same thing for tanks and for the navy 60+ over japen. even if the usa coulnt invaded frace germany or japen coulnt even touch the usa with land forces b/c our navy.
 
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Panther    In defense of the Brits.   2/8/2004 4:38:59 PM
Atleast she alone held out against germany, til' hitler's brain imploded and fatefully attack russia! In america it's known as a brain fart! And what a stinker hitler caused, atleast his cremated remains gave off enough a repugnant oder of sh!t to make it a bit more identifible!!
 
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sentinel28a    RE:In defense of the Brits.   2/9/2004 5:39:23 PM
Well...Hitler intended all along to attack Russia. He just wanted to settle things with the French before he did so. Hitler couldn't understand why the Brits just didn't roll over and let Hitler have a free hand in the east. Maybe because the Brits are a brave people and Churchill recognized Hitler for the monster he was, early on. Knew there was a reason why I have a Winnie quote on my work PC.
 
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ace    RE:ww2   2/13/2004 8:13:05 PM
true, the US did a very strong ecconomy, but think of it this way. if germany didn't invade USSR, Britain would have eventualy fallen, giving germany the oportunity to bomb the american industial regions, which would have injured their economy. the main reason that the american ecconomy was so much stronger than that of the res of the world during WW2 is because its' industrial regions wern't torn apart by bombs.
 
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ace    RE:In defense of the Brits.   2/13/2004 8:16:43 PM
i agree with 'wait.wat?' russia and the US both had each others backs
 
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Ex98C    RE:ww2   2/14/2004 6:31:56 PM
"Britain would have eventualy fallen, giving germany the oportunity to bomb the american industial regions" Umm Ace what makes you think that having Britain would make it easy for Germany to bomb the American mid-west? That was the center of our indusrty..though certainly not all of it
 
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