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Subject: Russia AND China - The Two Are Allied
HiloBill    5/13/2005 5:17:09 PM
I have posted at another subforum here never realizing that a "Russia Discussion Board" existed. Most all my posts were related to Russia. As I had explained at the other sub-forum, I believe Russia (and China) pose a lethal threat to America and the rest of the West. The website I had been working on for a couple of months is now completed: http://www.thefinalphase.com It is totally commerical free and no money is made there - it is solely for the purpose of raising awareness of the aforementioned threat. Below is my introduction to the site: "The Final Phase" Thesis An Introduction Russia and China are not our friends. They are not our true partners in the war on terror or in the world of free-trade. They engage the West as partners for now while it is to their advantage, but only as a means to an end. Conventional wisdom concludes that Russia and China "need" the West for their long-term national interests and prosperity. They do not; there are other avenues. Today, we establish joint intelligence operations with Russia's FSB (former KGB) in the war on terror and consider them to be full - "need to know" - partners and share our intelligence with them. This is a dangerous partnership. We invite China as a go-between partner in negotiating with North Korea to cajole them to abandon their nuclear program. We entrust China to act in good faith on our behalf when in fact they are more apt to manipulate the tension using North Korea as a potential diversion ploy in sync with their future military designs against Taiwan. Contrary to Beijing’s pronouncements, they are not concerned about Korea’s saber rattling; they welcome it and use it. Russia and China’s continuing modernization of weapon systems - especially strategic - and buildup of military might is rationalized and explained away by sophisticated, hopeful analyses in the West. However, such analyses fall short of adequately assessing their true threat and intentions. It appears no one dares say or even suggest what could be behind their growing military posture and mutual relationship. Besides, it is now a universally accepted notion that terrorism poses the largest and most imminent threat to the West. Whatever threat Russia and China may pose in the future it has taken a back seat to the more immediate concern of terrorism. (Ironically, there is a distinct possibility that today's terrorism may be interrelated to - part and parcel of - coordinated efforts and influence of Russia and China in the form of asymmetrical and proxy warfare against the West. For example, see Drugs, Russia & Terrorism and China's Military Planners Took Credit for 9/11.) Although masked to varying degrees, Russia and China are hostile toward the West and are jointly aligned with an objective to permanently end the West's "hegemony." The United States and Great Britain have abandoned their Cold War posture and are restructuring their intelligence organizations and concepts compelled by the new threat posed by terrorism. Defense is likewise restructuring and abandoning many of its heavy war-fighting concepts and components. It appears to be beyond the comprehension of Western intelligence that Russia and China may be acting in collusion and coordination against the West. Our preconceived notions about their supposed "primordial distrust" of one another tends to render this concern moot. We view Russia and China as two, distinctly separate nations pursuing their own national interests. But, what if Western intelligence is wrong? Less then two months before the 9/11 attacks, Russia and China signed a treaty in Moscow, on 16 July 2001, which may contain what some intelligence analysts suspect are secret military codicils beyond its overt provisions. However, even its overt language clearly indicates Russia will join China militarily should an "aggressor" interfere with its "internal affairs" over the issue of Taiwan. What are the ramifications of a militarily unified Russia and China to the world's balance of power? Has this been seriously considered by Western intelligence? At this late stage of "the final phase" plans of Russia and China, it may be too late for the West to awaken in time to thwart the emerging threat of their covert strategic alliance - time is running out. "The Final Phase" The threat posed by Russia and China - which trumps the threat of terrorism - does not originate in their alliance of 16 July 2001. The threat goes back much further than that. In 1961, a KGB major defected from Russia and unsuccessfully tried to warn Western intelligence of a long-range strategic deception planned against the West. The defector was Anatoliy Golitsyn. He said that Russia and China would feign a split between themselves in order to work a "scissors strategy" against the West. Confident that the West would try to take advantage of an apparent split between them, they pursued myriad ploys - including border cl
 
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HiloBill    Russia's Implausible Deniability   3/31/2006 4:47:12 PM
This is a grand slam article by J.R. Nyquist that came out on 31 Mar 06 - it so very pertinent to this thread: http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/analysis.htm Weekly Column - 03.31.2006 Implausible Deniability by J. R. Nyquist In the appendix of Kenneth Timmerman’s book, Countdown to Crisis (page 353), we find a secret 1995 Russian document acquired by Congressman Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) through sources in Moscow. “This chilling document,” writes Timmerman, “confirms in black and white the suspicions the Israelis expressed about Russia’s missile transfers to Iran. There was nothing arbitrary or accidental about the sales; they were Russian state policy.” Besides missiles, the Russians have sent nuclear technology to Iran as well. But Moscow says this is entirely unintentional. So what are we to think? In the service of plausible deniability, Russia’s disinformation specialists have devised a cover story: Iran’s uranium enrichment owes its success to “the breakaway region of Adjara” and its president, Aslan Abashidze (described by critics as a “commie stooge”). Piling misdirection upon misdirection, Adjara is a breakaway region of a breakaway Soviet republic (Georgia); self-described as a model democratic government with a vigorous economy, “beautiful, successful and secure.” The convenience of “breakaway regions” governed by “stooges” is that they can serve as cut-outs in WMD tech transfers to rogue states and terrorist organizations. Russian nuclear experts, armed with bogus passports, filtered through Adjara to Iran. The rest is history, as Iran is about to become a nuclear power (if it isn’t already). After the necessary tech and material transfers were complete, President Abashidze was conveniently overthrown by an angry mob (probably organized by the Georgian Interior Minister). Now Abashidze resides comfortably in Moscow, protected by “powerful friends.” Journalists, Academics and the U.S. government will believe the Abashidze alibi. “It’s doubtful anyone in the Kremlin … knew what Mr. Abashidze was up to,” wrote Tsotne Bakuria, a former Georgian lawmaker and visiting scholar at George Washington University’s Elliot School of International Affairs. Bakuria’s words are soothing and useful for those who wish to maintain their illusions. But Timmerman’s secret document tells the real story. Prepared for the Russian General Staff, it is titled “CONCEPTUAL PROVISIONS OF A STRATEGY FOR COUNTERING THE MAIN EXTERNAL THREATS TO RUSSIAN FEDERATION NATIONAL SECURITY.” According to Russia’s strategists, the United States is the main external threat to Russia. Not Islamic terrorists. Not Chinese communists. Not Iranian clerics. According to the Russian strategists, “As a rule, the United States implements its policy in the Russian direction in coordination with other Western countries, Israel, and Japan.” The Western coalition seeks to advance “the processes of democratization and of [Russia’s] transition to a market economy….” Democratization and economic freedom are regarded with horror by Russian policy-makers. Nothing could be more disastrous for Russia’s KGB leadership. From first to last, democratization in Russia has been a sham. As Russian investigative journalist Yevgenia Albats explained more than a decade ago: “In its new incarnation … the KGB lost virtually none of its former functions. It keeps a close watch on joint ventures with the West, still monitors every area that affects state interests. It still bugs whatever government lines in chooses.” And now a top KGB official is president of the Russian Federation. Such an outcome should have been expected from the moment Mikhail Gorbachev declared his program of reform. The Kremlin has a grand strategy. It is the grand strategy of Nikita Khrushchev, Yuri Andropov and Vladimir Putin. As KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn explained in his 1984 book, New Lies for Old, Moscow seeks to undermine Western unity while building a new anti-American bloc of countries in a post-Soviet world. (Golitsyn anticipated the collapse of the Soviet Union by several years.) Russia’s new anti-American bloc presently includes Iran, China, South Africa, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Vietnam, Syria, Brazil and now Bolivia. The secret Russian document published by Timmerman plainly outlines Russia’s strategy of selling “military nuclear and missile technologies to such countries as Iran and Iraq, and to Algeria after Islamic forces arrive in power there.” How can Russia be America’s ally against Islamic extremism when Russia’s strategists are working to arm the Islamists with nuclear weapons? As if to clarify this matter, the secret document further admits: “Russia’s direct military alliance with some of the countries mentioned also should not be excluded, above all with Iran, within the framework of which a Russian troop contingent and tactical nuclear weapons could be stationed on the shores of the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz.” Th
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:Russia's Implausible Deniability   4/1/2006 3:38:19 PM
Let's just implode our economy, drag the whole world down and we'll be able to pick ourselves back with since only N. America, Japan, the EU, Oz and too a slighlty lesser extent India have stable societies that can handle such a blow. India will benefit as everyone who is currently in china will shift to India in the midst of complete civil convulsion in China. World wide economic floundering will kill of middle eastern oil revenue so the ruling families there will face the guillotine.
 
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