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Subject: Terrorists Attack Russian School - Hold 400 Hostage Including 200 Children
Roman    9/1/2004 4:00:57 AM
These Muslim terrorists (I have no doubt it is them despite the fact that it has not been confirmed yet) are complete scum. From CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/01/russia.school/index.html Attackers seize Russian school Wednesday, September 1, 2004 Posted: 3:49 AM EDT (0749 GMT) A girl is hurried away from the scene. RELATED • Moscow suicide bomber kills 9 • Explosions led to Russia crashes YOUR E-MAIL ALERTS Chechnya (Russia) Russia or CREATE YOUR OWN Manage alerts | What is this? MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Armed attackers have seized a school in a town in southern Russia, and Russia's ITAR-TASS news agency says about 400 people, including 200 children, are being held. The Interfax news agency, citing Ismel Shaov, a regional spokesman for the Federal Security Service, said there were 17 attackers, both male and female, and the gang included some who were wearing explosive belts. Wednesday's seizure took place on the first day of the Russian school year, in the town of Beslan in North Ossetia, Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) said. Video of the scene from Russian Television showed Russian forces stationed near the school, some of them behind a tank, as the sound of gunfire could be heard. A young girl and an older woman were hurried to safety by the armed forces. Beslan is located 19 miles (30 km) north of Vladikavkaz in southern Russia, which borders the troubled Russian republic of Chechnya. The seizure of the school comes a day after a female suicide bomber killed nine people and herself, and wounded 51 others when she detonated a bomb outside a subway station in northeastern Moscow. (Full story) Authorities did not immediately say if the female bomber was Chechen. The bombing marked the second major terrorist attack on Russia in a week, following the near simultaneous attacks on two Russian airliners by what authorities believe were two Chechen women suicide bombers. Eighty-nine people died in the crashes. Female Chechen suicide bombers are known in Russia as "black widows." Authorities have said traces of the explosive hexogen were found in the wreckage of both planes. Hexogen, when mixed with nitroglycerin, forms a plastic explosive similar to C4 and has been used by Chechen rebels in attacks on Russian soil in the past. Chechen rebels -- who refused to take part in Chechen elections held Sunday and vowed to take their fight to Russian soil -- have denied responsibility. But many Russian politicians are already linking them to Tuesday's suicide bombing, calling it revenge for the elections in which a Kremlin-backed candidate won the presidency. Russian troops have battled separatist guerrillas in Chechnya since 1994. In October 2002, about 50 Chechen rebels seized a Moscow theater and took about 800 hostages. After a three-day siege, Russian forces stormed the building using gas, killing most of the rebels and 120 hostages.
 
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Roman    RE:Terrorists Attack Russian School - Hold 400 Hostage Including 200 Children    9/3/2004 6:20:56 AM
Russian government reports that not all terrorists have been killed - how many escaped is unknown and it seems they took som children with them.
 
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Roman    RE:Terrorists Attack Russian School - Hold 400 Hostage Including 200 Children    9/3/2004 6:25:46 AM
Ahh, the reports are conflicting. I guess there is too much chaos to make anything out for the moment.
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:'For every one of us you kill, we will wipe out 50 children'   9/3/2004 6:39:21 AM
i agree with kgbduck, these terrorists understand nothing but terror. gassing the theater may not have went as planned but russia clearly established supremacy in that situation. i would suggest not just kidnapping terrorist families but for the russian military to take an entire chechen city hostage. tell the world that terror is our primary tool against terror and for every child harmed you will lose 3000 citizens.
 
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Big Bad Pariah    RE:Terrorists Attack Russian School - Hold 400 Hostage Including 200 Children    9/3/2004 6:43:18 AM
"Ahh, the reports are conflicting. I guess there is too much chaos to make anything out for the moment." Damn... So Russian security forces stormed the school complex?
 
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FJV    RE:'For every one of us you kill, we will wipe out 50 children'   9/3/2004 6:53:51 AM
"Tell the world that terror is our primary tool against terror and for every child harmed you will lose 3000 citizens" Fact is that these guys don't give a damn about their own civilians (unless they're familiy). Such idiots are perfectly willing to let 3000 of their own civilians be killed if it makes for good propaganda or if it escalates the conflict. Anyone remember the mortar attack on the market in former Yugoslavia? That very likely was the work of Muslim fundamentalists trying to escalate the situation and trying to get the UN to fight Serbia. http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/fmsopubs/issues/bosnia2.htm
 
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Roman    RE:Terrorists Attack Russian School - Hold 400 Hostage Including 200 Children    9/3/2004 6:55:06 AM
""Ahh, the reports are conflicting. I guess there is too much chaos to make anything out for the moment." Damn... So Russian security forces stormed the school complex" Yes, but only after the there the situation inside the building got out of control.
 
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scholar    Questions   9/3/2004 9:43:10 AM
1. Why are so many of the people coming out of the school naked? 2. Is what I'm seeing on the net evidence that the Russian security forces are totally inept and disorganized or is that a false impression? 3. My favorite right-wing blog, "The Belmont Club," suggests (he's being optimistic) that the terrorists who escaped might have been deliberately allowed to escape as a way of channeling them out of the building and into a smaller place where there might be less chance of kids getting killed. Is this likely or are they just totally inept? 3. (And I guess this is an observation and not a question): I can't help but think of what the Israeli special ops would be doing now. But the Israelis learned the hard way: Palestinian terrorists took over a school back in the 1970s and the spec ops raid was disastrous. Learning curve.
 
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Hound_1K    RE:Questions   9/3/2004 10:02:48 AM
//1. Why are so many of the people coming out of the school naked?// The terrorists made everybody to take off clothes, because it was too soggy and suffocatingly in the school. //2. Is what I'm seeing on the net evidence that the Russian security forces are totally inept and disorganized or is that a false impression? // What did you expect, a Hollywood-style movie? It wasn't a pre-planned assault, the started to kill hostages. //3. My favorite right-wing blog, "The Belmont Club," suggests (he's being optimistic) that the terrorists who escaped might have been deliberately allowed to escape as a way of channeling them out of the building and into a smaller place where there might be less chance of kids getting killed. Is this likely or are they just totally inept?// Let's just see. It's not that easy. Special forces are not Supermen.
 
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scholar    RE:Questions   9/3/2004 10:07:56 AM
No, they're not supermen, but special forces can also be professional and competent.
 
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gf0012-aust    Questions   9/3/2004 12:33:29 PM
lets hope that the russians shoot those pricks....
 
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