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Subject: Right on, Denmark
eu4ea    2/3/2006 3:14:30 PM
You have my *full* support and solidarity in this whole mess. Human right, including free speech, and the gains of liberal democracy and the past 2-300 years of history are *not* to be taken for granted. I have no doubts about where Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Adams, Paine, Washington and other founding fathers would stand in this issue. All of them spent their lives working for freedom, explicitly freedom of the press and freedom from religious censorship. And I have the greatest respect for the achievements of Denmark. Freedom, peace, prosperity, fairness and tolerance are all key parts of the Danish system - in some important ways, it's arguably superior to what we enjoy here in the US. It's pathetic that such a society should be threatened by a bunch of religious yobos fully incapable of creating anything even remotely approaching Denmark in *any* of the countries where they are a majority, ever. And even more pathetic that they should work themselves up so over *cartoons* for god's sake. Was that the only part of the newspaper these s are capable of reading or what?. Finally, some blasphemy. Let's see, this Muhammad guy was; - An iliterate camel herder employed by a woman for most of his life. - A professional thief later in his career, raiding Mecca's caravans from his base in Medina. - A gangster who ordered contract killings on at least three people, including a woman nursing her child - A pervert who married his own niece, Ayesha - when he was 54 and she was 6!. Apparently he was nice enough to wait until she was 9 years old until he ed her, however. - A mass murderer who ordered the execution of at least 300 prisioners of war, including women and children - Etc. OH, wait, actually that's not blasphemy - it's what it actualy says in the koran. Well, try this instead: that's not the "word of god". It's bull. It's the collected rantings of a perverted mentally imbalanced, criminal, cult leader. There *was* no angel gibrahil telling him anything. He made up. Lock, stock and barrel. Invented it. It's not the "seal of the prophets", it's made-up crap. Not only that, it's crap made up by a provincial psycopath who couldnt keep his facts together: - He keeps confusing the virgin Mary with Noah's wife. - He's got Jhon the Baptist severely mixed-up. - His grammar stinks, and he's got multiple case/suffix mismatches. - He contradicts himself in at least a dozen places, then goes on to claim that the stuff he made up later "corrects" the initial stuff, even though the whole thing is "god's word", and it's actually a word-for-word copy of a book he saw in a table in the 7th heaven. It's *all bull*, guys. It's exactly the same as the stuff invented by Shoko Ashahara, the Reverend Jim Jones, Joseph Smith, David Koreash or any other of a long and sorry list of psychotic, unbalanced, sexually depraved and criminal cult leaders. The *only* thing that's remarcable about the koran is how so many poor opressed bastards living their entire sorry lives under the boot of piss-pot dictatorships actually believe that bull to actually be the literal word of god. Wake up and smell the camel , dudes.
 
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eu4ea    RE: French company hits bottom, digs - EU   2/8/2006 2:34:52 AM
thnks! Now all we need is a secret handshake and some *really* devious conspiracies, which the arab press will then "expose" for "all the world to see". For isntance, do they know that Binjamin Netanyahu is really...... The Lock Ness Monster!
 
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Shirrush    RE: French company hits bottom, digs deeper still.   2/8/2006 5:25:51 AM
I just got updated on this one: AFP claims that the Egyptian franchisee of Carrefour, Majid Al Futtaim Group, owns 75% of these operations, and that the French headquarters have published a disclaimer, according the which these actions had nothing to do with Carrefour's central management, and the franchisee is totally independant to take it's own decisions on matters of commercial policy. That's strange! What if the franchisee's behavior affects the company's image worldwide? It does seem that Carrefour is waiting to sustain serious financial damage before it does the right thing and severs all ties with MAF. Or is it that they prefer the Arab consumer's money to the loyalty of their European customers? I don't think so!
 
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Hugo    RE: Shirrush   2/8/2006 5:49:35 AM
I say boycott them anyway, the company is free to choose it's franchisees and should do so more wisely in future. Sting them as a matter of principle.
 
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Shirrush    RE: Hugo   2/8/2006 6:27:47 AM
Precisely. Until they show some balls and apologize for allowing their company's name and logo to be used in this jihad against Denmark.
 
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Thomas3    Cost   2/9/2006 7:43:09 PM
The preliminary estimate of the cost is 1/2 bio USD. Considering that for 2005 our export surplus was 11 bio USD - we just might survive. We are paying of creditors - in more ways than one.
 
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Lawman    RE:Cost   2/10/2006 7:07:03 PM
Hmm, perhaps the West can chip in another few billion a year, then you can have a monthly cartoon publishing! (At half a Bn a time, $6bn a year should do nicely!)
 
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Thomas3    RE:Cost   2/10/2006 7:09:18 PM
My point is, that the financial damage is neglectible. We had much higher cost when we critsised China on their human rights stand. Then the US leaned on them.
 
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Thomas3    Politics   2/13/2006 8:22:17 PM
There may be another positive repercussion. The radical Left (actually more in the center than the center itself) has a new profile: Naser Khader a muslim of Syrian extradition. His point of view is that the radical muslims can pi$$ off to Saudi Árabia - and forget about destroying Denmark for the rest of us. The radical left has traditionally been unable to take a firm stand - on anything - and furthermore has been the key to govermental power (not at the moment though). If Khader can give the party a profile the ability to make a consistent policy on immigration and integration looks much better. Especially since he is not afraid to call a spade a spade - and able to tell some of his fellows in faith to take the towel off the head and get a much needed shave and actually arrive in this millenium (skipping one that is).
 
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Thomas3    RE:Cost   2/13/2006 8:28:19 PM
Todays papers are full of economist saying that the boycott of the middle east is actually close to a good thing! Danish economy is getting pretty heated - untill now we've been able to avoid inflation - but that can rapidly change. And as we are having problems as to where to stack our balance of payment surplus at the moment ... The coming genuflecting might have something to do with certain custoumers appealing for understanding, that they cannot live longer deprived of chicken and cheese. The fact is that the local producer will not be able to take the slack - and the alternative is US products. The suicide bomber is a part of a long tradition for hurting yourself the most - or so it seems.
 
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JustMe44    RE:Right on, Denmark   4/4/2006 9:38:41 PM
Why do Muslims keep telling everybody to read more about Muhammad from the "right" sources. I've read a lot about Mohammed, and almost all of it was from Muslim sources. In fact, the only history there is of Muhammad was written by Muslims, except for someone mentioning that a man by the name of Muhammad was preaching from the Old Testatment in Jerusalem...can't recall now what his name was. But I see nothing to respect or nothing wonderful about Muhammad from what I've read from Muslim sources. I just don't get it! But to each their own. What is really giving Islam such a bad name is we see no protests by the "moderate Muslims" against the Muslim terrorists/extremists, who are the real ones giving Islam such a bad name. Muslim terrorists/ extremists have been bombing and taking people hostage for over 50 years now and they've done one horrifying thing after another almost on a weekly basis since 9/11/01, and I have yet to see a bunch of "moderate Muslims" protesting to save the name of their religion. Muslims terrorists/extremists are acting exactly as they first did when Islam was formed. They fought against the Pagans, then the Jews, then the Christians, then the Hindus...can't remember whether it was Christians or Hindus first. That's exactly what they're doing today and that's exactly what the Quran and Hadiths tell them to do...or, at least what I read in those books.
 
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