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Subject: What is this thing?
bluejacket    11/28/2004 4:22:20 AM
What is this thing? What is this thing? It looks too elaborate to be a hoax. Then again..........
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gf0012-aust    Schalldäempfer   12/10/2004 2:56:40 AM
It's called a Schalldäempfer "Das Photo zeigt eine PzH M109 mit Schalldäempfer bei der Wehrtechnischen Dienststelle (WTD) in Meppen) (Photo: Pahlkötter)"
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gf0012-aust    Schalldäempfer - oops   12/10/2004 2:59:58 AM
typo: correct spelling is Schalldämpfer
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gf0012-aust    further to this   12/10/2004 3:09:01 AM
The german army has a ballistics test range in Meppen. This is where this particular piece of equipment is.
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Desertmole    RE:further to this   12/11/2004 6:18:45 AM
Germany has a lot of environmental regulations that the US Army had to live with over the years. About the only area where unconstrained artillery firing was Grafenwohr, and in the 80s we were allowed to fire 363 days per year. No firing was allowed on Christmas and Easter Sunday. Since that time, and because the number of units firing declined greatly, more and more restrictions on firing have been put in place, though I do not have any details.
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Desertmole    RE:further to this   12/11/2004 6:22:42 AM
Also, one must remember that the average distance between villages and towns is something like 800 meters. Germany is so urbanized in this regard that even where there are ranges and testign areas, they have a lot of neighbors.
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gf0012-aust    further to this - Desetmole   12/11/2004 7:00:55 AM
"Also, one must remember that the average distance between villages and towns is something like 800 meters." I'm not so sure it's 800m. I have to go to Germany for work every 2 months or so - and there are big gaps in the middle. ;) Typically I'm in Mannheim, Stuttgart, Ladenburg, Stuttgart. All of these have substantial acreage in between.
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Desertmole    RE:further to this - Desetmole   12/12/2004 12:33:07 PM
I saw a terrain study back in the 80s that said that was the average distance. I know it certainly seemed true in upper Bavaria where I was stationed at the time. In those areas, take a closer look at the countryside. Many of the seemingly clear areas will have small hamlets (maybe 6-8 houses and a barn or two) between the larger cities and towns.
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