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Subject: How hard to invade Saudi?
DDX    5/22/2003 6:27:51 AM
I know they have a lot of high tech US and British Tanks and Warplanes but how good are the pilots and troops. From what I've read not as good as most western AFs. It is possible the Iraq war could lead to big problem for the Saudis maybe even a take over by extremists, filthy Al Queda types. That would probably trigger an invasion especially considing the saudi MR ballistic missles with nuke warheads(I think).
 
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Global-Islam    RE:How hard to invade Saudi?   8/10/2003 5:50:46 AM
Well U Can Try It... Make Sure U Have Plenty Of Body-Bags To Keep US Soldiers In. Especially Since America Is Even Weaker Than Russia Was In Afghanistan.
 
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WinsettZ    RE:How hard to invade Saudi?   8/10/2003 2:56:19 PM
Didn't Saddam say he would kill many Americans before Baghdad? He must have meant after, but that could mean he was either a liar or messed up the timing. I'm sure the global Jehadis would take a plane to Saudi to fight the infidels. Yippie!
 
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swhitebull    RE:How hard to invade Saudi?   8/10/2003 4:03:10 PM
Well U Can Try It... Make Sure U Have Plenty Of Body-Bags To Keep US Soldiers In.... The Arab capacity for self-delusionment never ceases to amaze me. Even when faced with the truth dangling in front of their noses. swhitebull - the biggest obstacle to invading to Arabia would NEVER be the Arabs, but the logistics needed to accomplish the task.
 
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bsl    RE:How hard to invade Saudi?   8/10/2003 5:54:52 PM
The larger and more far reaching any war becomes, the easier it is for the West. The problems the West has encountered stem from reluctance to wage total war, to cause collateral damage, to view Islam, as a whole, as the enemy. If these yahoos ever really succeed in creating a general jihad, and convincing the West that we're in a total war, you won't be able to count the muslim bodies before they putrify.
 
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Ex-pat2    RE:How hard to invade Saudi?   8/10/2003 9:50:39 PM
Well there is only one thing the President of the U.S. would have to do to decimate any Saudi military capability- without even firing a shot. Order all American contractors out of the country - then no tanks would roll or any F-15s would fly. Maybe the Brits would do the same thing, no matter - all those RSAF Tornados flown by Saudi pilots would be no match for a single USAF fighter squadron. Better yet, do it during Ramadan - at night, while all the Saudis are gorging themselves after a hard day of fasting (seeing as they are only required to get out of bed between the hours of 10am-and3pm anyway it makes for a short work day). Then tell all the TCN's (third country nationals, like Bangladeshi, Pakistani) that they might actually get paid and a plane thicket home and then the Saudi populace may have to actually take out their own garbage and change their own baby diapers - now that would be a real tragedy wouldn't it? While it is yet seen just how appreciative the Iraqi people are at being handed their liberation, I seriously doubt many would die for the Royal House of Saud anyway. But in any event, our G.I.s finally need a war of true liberation. Just think how grateful all those harems will be.
 
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Ex-pat2    RE:How hard to invade Saudi?   8/11/2003 12:52:33 AM
How many races would the best NASCAR driver win without a pit-crew? The only pit crew the Saudi military has is hired contractors. I believe the Brits stayed quiet about some of their BAe contract personnel hanging bombs of Saudi aircraft that flew missions against Yemen a number of years ago. I doubt CNN would let that go unnoticed today - especially if instead of Yemen those aircraft were flying against Americans. High tech is all relative (think of the speed and memory of your computer even 3 years ago)- for modern jets its mostly in avionics (which none of the latest and greatest is on any Saudi birds). Another thing is command and control - which to inbred tribal mistrust amongst Arabs will never be sufficient. As far as troops, well - they certainly don't have any "dying" loyalty for the House of Saud. But America will never give another bail out to the House of Saud with the blood of our troops after 9/11. The next time all we need to hold on to is the oil rich Eastern Province. It would be much easier to control empty dessert than the streets of Bagdhad, Basra, or Tikrit. Besides, it will give Exxon and Texaco a piece of the pie - there's plenty of oil to go around, as opposed to giving a sole source contract to only Halliburton.
 
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frankenschtott    frankenschtott   3/4/2008 1:03:06 AM
I have not yet read but one post, but I believe that a take over of the oilfields is a potential that must be considered.
 
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frankenschtott    frankenschtott   3/4/2008 1:26:19 AM
I have read several posts, and I have this to humbly add:
 
The U.S. doesn't need to worry about the "moral high ground"...A large part of the world hates us, and no "moral high ground" will change that.  If we control the oil, we control the oil that is distributed to a dissenting country. 
 
We have a duty to secure the resources the world needs.
 
There is no need to discuss Saudi military might or Militant Islam...they are "Paper Tigers".
 
Nuf Said
 
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