Canister

Well,, Just take a separate loading bottom half of the round. Take off some powder bags. Put in some cloth. The put on top of that bolts, nuts, little rocks, catridge brasses. some more cloth to keep it tingh and wait the infantry to close to say 100m.

Is that ever done? Did gunners in WW2 ever do that?

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When you fire that, all that will happen is 1. A big flame from the end of your tube. Might scare the crap out of them at night. 2. Some really hot nuts, bolts and rocks and melted brass in your tube. You have most likely ruined the tube with deep gouges. I heard that story many times and it wont work. You can bake an improvised claymore with nuts, bolts, rocks cardboard an ammo can and block of C4 but your not shooting that crap out of a modern arty tube. If you want the "grapeshot" effect, US version. 105mm Howitzer - use M546 APERS-T 7000 Steel flechettes (FAS says 8000,Ft Sill teaches 7000) Stopped more than 1 NVA charge. You can also use the following 155 techniques. 155mm- HE/MTSQ in the direct fire mode, ICM in the wire (High angle with short fuse time) WP MTSQ (watch the wind!) Nothing stops a assault like running through a cloud of willie pete. From a historical standpoint, Grape shot was a naval round designed to shread sails and rigging. The anitpersonnel effects were secondary. " Just take a separate loading bottom half of the round. Take off some powder bags. Put in some cloth. The put on top of that bolts, nuts, little rocks, catridge brasses. some more cloth to keep it tingh and wait the infantry to close to say 100m.

Quick correction: You can bake an improvised claymore with nuts, bolts, rocks cardboard an ammo can and block of C4 but your not shooting that crap out of a modern arty tube. Change Bake to make. don't go baking your explosives. Tee off the wife and have to remodel the house.

A Remington 870 with 10 round tube loaded with 00 buckshot will have a similar effect on troops Sam Change Bake to make. don't go baking your explosives. Tee off the wife and have to remodel the house Good advice, you also owe me a new keyboard. Koolaid doesn't clean out easy.

Yep in old days tha Grape was in tin canister, which broke up when it contacted the soil. I was thinking more on shotgun basics. and yes it is not advisable to put all kinds of stuff into barrel, but you could try it with blanket and iron hardware. A bit like shooting tanks with HE rounds it will not do that much damge, but still is the quickest way to empty barrel and get new one going.

I would bet that the US Army frowns on soldiers putting anything other than regulation bullets into their guns! I've recently read something about fragmenting rounds. If you folks want to read some interesting stuff I found a web site that has lots of cool briefings on military weapons. I was searching around on some defense contractors sites and found a link to something called the National Defense Industry Association. Then I found some papers from a conference they had. You can find these at There is some briefings in here about ammo and lots of other cool stuff. Maybe I'll start a new topic on this.

theres a new round out for the m1's cannon. its a big fat canister round. 1100 tungsten steel balls- could sting a little