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Subject: 105mm Howitzer on a LAV III Chassis
long gun    6/17/2005 3:15:13 PM
A 105mm Self-Propelled Howitzer on a LAV III Chassis has already been build by General Dynamics. The sph can fire 30 km and fits in a C-130 without modification.
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Eagle601    RE:105mm Howitzer on a LAV III Chassis   6/19/2005 1:47:02 AM
I've seen the prototype, but I don't know if there are any plans to procure these for the Stryker Brigades. It'd make a nice addition to me.
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long gun    RE:105mm Howitzer on a LAV III Chassis   6/20/2005 10:53:53 AM
The Army has no plans at present to buy the 105mm on the LAV III (Stryker) chassis simply because they are pouring all their money into NLOS-C for a cannon that doesn't shoot as far and for a vehicle that must be taken apart to fly on a C-130.
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AlbanyRifles    RE:105mm Howitzer on a LAV III Chassis- Note Quite   6/20/2005 10:56:26 AM
Except that is a direct fire weapon......not a howitzer, which is an indirect fire weapon.
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ArtyEngineer    RE:105mm Howitzer on a LAV III Chassis- Note Quite - AlbanyRifles   6/20/2005 6:10:15 PM
There is a 105 Howitzer on a LAV Chassis, cant remember who makes it but it waw tested recently at Eglin Air Force range used to have a link to it but cant find it now. You are thinking of the LAV III MGS, see link below:
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ArtyEngineer    RE:105mm Howitzer on a LAV III Chassis- Note Quite - AlbanyRifles   6/20/2005 6:21:59 PM
Here is link to 105 Howitzer on LAV Chassis:
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doggtag    RE:105mm Howitzer on a LAV III Chassis   6/20/2005 7:30:50 PM
Several of us here posted up some info months ago on the V2C2 Variable Volume Chamber Cannon: (see the large .pdf's listed under "105mm LAV III Artillery Weapon System" and the "Variable Volume Chamber Cannon".) (...yes, lots of goodies over at UDLP "borrowed" some technical assistance from South Africa's Denel Group (who developed the LEO long range 105mm gun/howitzer), and the result was a 105mm turreted system that can fit the Piranha family 8x8 vehicles. It utilized the same MAC Modular Artillery Charge system that the US developed for 155mm gun systems (only it used less individual "packets" per shell, being as 105mm is much lighter than 155.) Some of the development research has been incorporated into the FCS NLOS-C programs (Non Line of Sight-Cannon), but currently that platform is using a modified M777 155mm gun. Not that I'm a fan of the Stryker overall in general, but in the .pdf docs from dtic, the LAV III with the 105mm turret does look much sexier than the Stryker MGS, a much cleaner, and more useful system overall, allowing both direct and indirect fire, and carrying much more than the dozen-and-a-half rounds that the MGS carries. Problem is, the short-sightedness of the politicians and brass on procurement teams always overlook such promising systems for something that, in the end, just doesn't come quite as close (as the comparison chart of the LAV III/105mm vs NLOS-C 155mm demo vehicle shows.)
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