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Subject: Proper use of Artillery
F22    3/26/2005 4:08:55 PM
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AlbanyRifles    RE:Proper use of Artillery   3/28/2005 11:11:51 AM
Damn amateurs!!!!! Can't even hit the side of a mountain!!!!! I tell you what, if it had been soldiers, we would have hit the house!!!! OR the mountain!!!
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ArtyEngineer    RE:Proper use of Artillery   3/29/2005 2:09:39 PM
Dont understand the part about too much propellant, 105 rounds are fixed propellant rounds unlike 155 where there are various charges. It was human error all right, some one made a large change to the weapons QE between when weapon was laid and when it was fired. Or either their Fire Control system needs some alignment procedures carried out.
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EW3    RE:Proper use of Artillery   3/29/2005 2:19:22 PM
"the part about too much propellant" It's their cover story. Nobody would believe they couldn't hit the side of a mountain ;)
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neutralizer    RE:Proper use of Artillery   3/30/2005 4:52:46 AM
Assuming it is an artillery type of gun and that since it's in the US the ammo will be M1 pattern then it is not fixed, it is semi-fixed with 7 charges.
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shek    RE:Proper use of Artillery   3/30/2005 9:00:21 AM
Some joker wanted to see what happened if they used the red bag.
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F22    RE:Proper use of Artillery   3/31/2005 7:47:45 PM
What's the red bag?
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Carl S    RE:Red Bag   8/20/2005 12:28:21 PM
It is a "super charge" for US 155mm cannon. Rather than being packaged in increments like the white & green propellant charges, it is one long red cylinder. Zone Eight is its book nomenclature. Also refered to as "supercharge eight".
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ArtyEngineer    RE:Red Bag   8/20/2005 1:06:37 PM
Its actually cream coloured, Actual charge designation is M203A1, It is truely awesome seeing those being fired. The charge which is a red Bag is the M119 charge, it also is pretty big.
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Carl S    RE:Red Bag   8/21/2005 10:46:40 AM
Those I trained with, circa 1987-89 were red. My XOs handbook (FC 6-50-20) identifies it as the M203 (DODAC 1320-D532), and confirms it was colored red. You are likely think of what the book shows as the M119A2, which is a zone 7 charge and also a single bag charge. I cant recall ever using it.
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ArtyEngineer    RE:Red Bag   8/21/2005 12:28:13 PM
The M203 A1 is definitely cream coloured, trust me ;) I put 7 of them through my howitzers during acceptance testing every week.
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