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Subject: SHUTUP!!!!
ArmyGulfWarVet    11/1/2002 9:57:47 AM
I cannot believe that this is actually an issue. Up until now I would admit that I have been rather hard on the Air Farce for its inherent lack of discipline, but this takes the cake! Have we forgotten that though you are members of the Air Farce you have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution. You guys in the Air Force have it made 99% of the time. Now you deploy to a combat zone and are complaining beause Robin Leach isn't there to usher you to your "dorms". Try spending time with the 24th ID (Mech), the 82nd, or the 101st. See what it is REALLY like to be "In-Country". You guys are complaining because the gym has antiquated equipment? The only exercise I got when I was overseas in a combat zone was filling sandbags, burning feces, and doing endless PMCS's on the vehicles and equipment. And to complain that the "refrigerators only contain bottled water that must be drunk on the premises"? Did you say REFRIGERATOR?!?!?! Jesus Christ, I did want to discuss this rationally but I find myself becoming more and more livid by the moment. Don't get me wrong, I thank every serviceman and servicewoman for their efforts, and I can sympathize and EMpathize with being away from loved ones. But Lord have mercy Father help us all! At least ACT like you are a branch of the armed forces! You guys sleep in buildings, and at the worst in GP Medium's. Come run with the grunts for a while, and those dilapidated buildings will seem like the Taj Mahal to you. Did someone actually complain about having to use a bathroom with only one sink and three showers?! Man, I can remember how fortunate I felt when my Mom mailed me a box of wet wipes. I cleaned my fourth point of contact, armpits, crotch, and wiped the back of my neck. You know what, I felt like I was ready to go to church! Someone said that you guys have to walk 20 minutes to get to get to the chow hall. Waaaaaaaaaaaah! A chow hall, I would have walked two hours for a hot meal. Nothing like eating "Mysteries" (MRE's) three times a day, and being unfortunate to draw a corned beef hash for two of your three meals out of the day. Get a backbone for God's sake! I'm not on active duty now, but I am still in the Guard, if I get called up I will gladly serve. I may complain about the conditions but I tell you what there is a difference between complaining and squealing like a girl! I suppose the insult to injury was that the PX didn't have enough CD's and DVD's to select from. How Draconian! Instead of complaining about what the Army is not providing you, how about taking a good look at yourselves and consider yourself lucky that you weren't on the ground during Operation Anaconda...just think if those guys from the 10th Mountain didn't want to engage the Army because they hadn't showered and "Just didn't feel fresh". Wake up and change that Farce to Force.
 
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DrCruel    Bosnia   3/17/2004 12:41:29 AM
I was at Camp Eagle base. We had a "Power Zone", theatre, expresso shop, several gift shops, a non-alcohol club, and a game room with cable TV. Since I was a computer tech (74B) I spent lots of time on the internet, or playing Starcraft. My main job was to make sure that people could send their e-mails back and forth. "Cushy" doesn't even begin to describe it. Did I mention that we had a modern gym room too? Indoor treadmills, weight room ,the works. And Bosnian civvies did everything for us - put up the wire, built our seahuts and European showers, cleaned our toilets, washed our clothes, ran our mess hall, everything. About the only people who had it better were the Swedish medics. They used to have parties every night, or so I heard. My father was in the military from '52-'54. When he asks how I had it in the Army, I just shrug. God forbid he finds out how it really was for me...
 
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ingnoway    lack of   5/17/2007 2:31:30 PM

I cannot believe that this is actually an issue. Up until now I would admit that I have been rather hard on the Air Farce for its inherent lack of discipline, but this takes the cake! Have we forgotten that though you are members of the Air Farce you have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution. You guys in the Air Force have it made 99% of the time. Now you deploy to a combat zone and are complaining beause Robin Leach isn't there to usher you to your "dorms". Try spending time with the 24th ID (Mech), the 82nd, or the 101st. See what it is REALLY like to be "In-Country". You guys are complaining because the gym has antiquated equipment? The only exercise I got when I was overseas in a combat zone was filling sandbags, burning feces, and doing endless PMCS's on the vehicles and equipment. And to complain that the "refrigerators only contain bottled water that must be drunk on the premises"? Did you say REFRIGERATOR?!?!?! Jesus Christ, I did want to discuss this rationally but I find myself becoming more and more livid by the moment. Don't get me wrong, I thank every serviceman and servicewoman for their efforts, and I can sympathize and EMpathize with being away from loved ones. But Lord have mercy Father help us all! At least ACT like you are a branch of the armed forces! You guys sleep in buildings, and at the worst in GP Medium's. Come run with the grunts for a while, and those dilapidated buildings will seem like the Taj Mahal to you. Did someone actually complain about having to use a bathroom with only one sink and three showers?! Man, I can remember how fortunate I felt when my Mom mailed me a box of wet wipes. I cleaned my fourth point of contact, armpits, crotch, and wiped the back of my neck. You know what, I felt like I was ready to go to church! Someone said that you guys have to walk 20 minutes to get to get to the chow hall. Waaaaaaaaaaaah! A chow hall, I would have walked two hours for a hot meal. Nothing like eating "Mysteries" (MRE's) three times a day, and being unfortunate to draw a corned beef hash for two of your three meals out of the day. Get a backbone for God's sake! I'm not on active duty now, but I am still in the Guard, if I get called up I will gladly serve. I may complain about the conditions but I tell you what there is a difference between complaining and squealing like a girl! I suppose the insult to injury was that the PX didn't have enough CD's and DVD's to select from. How Draconian! Instead of complaining about what the Army is not providing you, how about taking a good look at yourselves and consider yourself lucky that you weren't on the ground during Operation Anaconda...just think if those guys from the 10th Mountain didn't want to engage the Army because they hadn't showered and "Just didn't feel fresh". Wake up and change that Farce to Force.

Dude, are you refering to REMFS or SOF. Of course! Non combat troops will always complain about lousy situations,
for they aren't trained for it.
 
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