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Subject: Is life just a dream ?
Cocoonboy    11/29/2004 10:03:56 PM,,2087-1358588,00.html Even though you are reading this, what proof do you have it's not a dream ?
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eon    RE:Is life just a dream ?   11/30/2004 9:32:25 AM
This same theme has been used numerous times in SF novels going back decades. One such, "Simulacron-3" by Daniel F. Galouye (1964), became the basis for a recent movie, "The Thirteenth Floor". The novel was much better..
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Cocoonboy    RE:Is life just a dream ? eon.   11/30/2004 2:37:34 PM
Yeah, the 13 Floor was a dump.Speaking of movies, have you ever seen one called " eXisten " ? It's slow,strange and dreamy odd.For some nutty reason I actually liked the flick..
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eon    RE:ExistenZ- eon to cocoonboy   11/30/2004 4:01:35 PM
I actually have a copy of it, being a David Cronenburg fan. It was OK, but if you want to see what happens when Cronenburg really cuts loose on the subject of subjective reality, check out his earlier films, "Videodrome", and (my favorite!) "Naked Lunch", the latter based on the novel by William S. Burroughs. Burroughs made a career out of exploring the subjectiveness of experience both in and out of dream-states, in this and his other books ("Nova Express" and "The Ticket That Exploded"). Another author who went into the subject extensively was the long-ignored but now-trendy Philip K. Dick; you might want to lokk up his novels "Eye In The Sky", "Our Friends From Frolix-Eight", and especially the Siamese twins, "Martian Timeslip" and "The Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch". These two formed the basis for the movie "Total Recall", after a rewrite by SF author Joe Haldeman that incorporated elements from his novel on the same subject, "All My Sins Remembered"..
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Cocoonboy    RE:ExistenZ- eon to cocoonboy   11/30/2004 4:23:24 PM
Thanks for all of the tips eon.I like Sci-Fi, but I usually take the lazy movie route.I admire guy's like you that absorb and read all of that stuff.Believe me, I go to the bookstore, and head for that section( best book jackets in the whole store ).I buy the book's and do read some, but then I always' get lost trying to keep up with the criptic names that require 33 characters.But I keep it up and will check out your suggestions.There is a movie I bought called " The Ninth Gate " with Johnny Depp ( I actually like an actor ? ).It's a mystery sci-fi / horror whatever.You might enjoy it. Ed Wood was good too. Most of Depps stuff is strange and I like that..
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eon    RE:Johnny Depp- eon to cocoonboy   12/2/2004 9:32:28 AM
You've named one of my favorite actors of this generation. I thought "The Ninth Gate" was excellent, and I have a letterboxed copy of "Ed Wood" to go with my collection of Edward D. Wood's movies (my favorite, of course, is the immortal "Plan Nine From Outer Space"). Depp is probably the finest genuine "character" actor since Sir Laurence Olivier'; he can literally submerge himself into a role so completely that all you see is the character, not the player. Besides his role as Eddy Wood, my favorite Depp performances are (1) his turn as Inspector Abberline in "From Hell", (2) his portrayal of Ichabod Crane in "Sleepy Hollow", and (3) best of aLL, his right-on-the-money portrait of "Raoul Duke" (Hunter S. Thompson) in Terry Gilliam's masterful "Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas". After Bill Murray's not-so-good job of playing Thompson in "Where The Buffalo Roam" I thought no one would ever have the guts to film "FALILV" as it was written, but Depp and Gilliam pulled it off. No film ever did a better job of depicting the doom-struck era of the early 1970's in the counter-culture. And I should know, I saw a lot of it first-hand back then, when I was in my 'teens..
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Thomas    RE:Is life just a dream ?   12/2/2004 9:44:18 AM
As far as I know the notion goes back to the Spanish author Calderon : La vida es sueño. If life is just a computerprogramme, they should have fired the programmer - calling Hitler, Stalin and Osama bin Laden a glitch ??????
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Cocoonboy    RE:Johnny Depp- eon to cocoonboy   12/3/2004 8:33:14 PM
Johnny Depp is one of my favorite actors too.I have most of his stuff as well.Ed Wood was great!He's hanging around with Bela on the couch at that house on Halloween, and Bela goes off to the the other room to do his thing and Depp snaps a peek after he hears some noise, looks back at the tube, wonders for a second and then looks back extra long and then back at the tube and then Bela comes out all full of life !The whole time that creepy muscic from some old 30's flick is playing.....too funny!.
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Cocoonboy    RE:eon   12/4/2004 5:00:31 AM
Considering you liked the Ninth Gate as much as I did, perhaps you should rent a New DVD called " Close your eyes ". It's right down that same lane as Ninth Gate. You'd like it. I'm considering buying it. Then there is a very odd movie I rented a while back that was pretty odd called " Session 9 ". It's more or less these guy's who won out on a bid to clean up DANVERS mental hospital. They all start going nuts ( considering where they are ). Very artistic and so on, yet gloomy..
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