"let me give you an example, link , this happened in the year 2000, a couple of RUSSIAN airplanes got the US Carrier Kitty Hawk of guard, thing that is supposed not possible, due to the ship´s detection systems, but it happened, also it took quite some time for the Carrier personel to ready themselves for battlestations... what does this shows?, do the Russian had better equipment at their disposal?, is the US Navy personel (including the pilots) poorly trainned?... you tell me."
It shows that it is possible during a time of peace to conduct a solitary operation to catch us with our guard down. Assuming Russia could build aircraft carriers with the capabilities ours have and operate them in American waters, we have far greater capability to conduct a similar operation against them. -- DJim
"When you compare one against one, you have to do it in ecual terms, meaning that if you compare the SU37 with the F22 o 35 you don´t care about the spare parts nor the fuel (the training could be a major factor but we can´t assure which is better), nor which is going into production or is on an experimental stage... you compare the planes, cold facts, which one has better performance a better chance of getting ahead on a real combat situation (fully loaded and ready)"
"... using this parameters I would like to give my personal opinion, I believe that the SU37 has a better performance rate than the F22 and F35, my personal opinion, of course."
Yes, if all you are interested in is a fantasy match-up of one aircraft against one aircraft, regardless of whether they even exist in the real world and regardless of how they would actually match up in the real world. Against my better judgement, I will engage in a discussion of one very, very real F-22 versus one almost-imaginary Su-37. -- DJim
"Now, why do I think this way?, the F22 and 35 have stealth capabilities that makes them harder to hunt down, correct?, well, since the SU37 is still a working project, and taking in consideration that the RUSSIANs have certainly saw the stealth issue on planes, they will equipt their planes (when they take them into production) with a more capable radar (like the one aviable on the SU27, which, conbined with ground or naval intel are more than capable of detecting stealth planes"
Hey, what happened to it being one airplane versus one airplane? – DJim
"(please take in consideration the fact that RUSSIA has declared, (as well as RUSSIAN´s made radars users) the detection of US stealth planes link . Having the stealth issue solved,"
Yes, that commander did an outstanding job. NO ONE who actually has anything to do with planning missions and actually fighting in our stealth aircraft thinks they are completely invisible or invulnerable. You need to understand that while he only engaged Allied aircraft at short range in order to limit his vulnerability to our SEAD missions, he also could only detect the stealth aircraft at short range but could detect other aircraft at many times that range. If the F-117 had just flown a few kilometers further away he never would have seen it. This hasn't solved the stealth issue for air-to-air combat at all. The F-22 or F-35 will very likely track the Su-37 at 50miles or even much more than that, and will maneuver around the enemy to engage it from a favorable angle. The Su-37 will not be able to track the F-22 unless it flies within a dozen miles or so and does so in front of the Su-37. --DJim
"you now rely on the plane´s fighting capabilities, and as stated by most here, the SU37 shows his advantage."
I don't know who said that, but they are sadly misinformed. I'm not aware of a single performance characteristic (aerodynamic or avionic or weapon system or anything else) that makes any difference in combat (or even any pretty but useless airshow stunts) in which the Su-37 can beat the F-22. Have you been reading and watching some of the informati
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