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Subject: Americans must respect Islam
salaam al-aqaaid    5/13/2004 10:18:35 AM
The outrageous atrocities commited by Americans at the Abu al-Grayyib prison complex speaks to a need for the United States Americans to give sensetivity training to its entire military so that they will no longer offind Muslims with the contemptious use of women as prison guards and unsavery adiction to homosexual pornographies. These things are offinsive to the Muslims community. Have you no shame? You must remove all women and homosexuals from contact with Muslim prisoners. This is offinsive.
 
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Leopard_dave    RE:More on Islamo-fascism, by former CIA Chief James Woolsley   12/10/2004 10:13:40 PM
Has anyone else read Some resent studies which have casued many scientists to believe that the Jewish and Palistinian people of a shared heratige. It is now thought that they were all Kaninites and simply at one point seperated over cultural issues. Pritty interesting.
 
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swhitebull    RE:More on Islamo-fascism, by former CIA Chief James Woolsley   12/10/2004 10:37:23 PM
most of those studies to my mind are revisionist nonsense. There WERE and ARE no separate ethnic group of people called Palestinians. Most people who call themselves such were ethnic arab immigrants to the mandate from syria, lebanon and egypt in the 1920s, following economic prosperity brought about by Jewish industry and revitalization of the land. I would be curious for you to cite your sources- Im pretty well-versed in this area- it was my area of studies in college along with Soviet studies - and most of the stuff I read that you mention coem from Arab or pro-Arab revisionists, who are trying to show that the Jews have no ties to the land - hence, muddy the waters. Here is an example of what I am saying: http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16269 swhitebull
 
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Leopard_dave    RE:More on Islamo-fascism, by former CIA Chief James Woolsley   12/10/2004 10:47:20 PM
How would they have no conection if this is true considering both ethnicities are born of the same people from the same place. Sorry my friend what you just said made no sense at all. Considering on the show i saw one of the researches was a Israely probably doesnt matter to you. I spose he is a self hatting Jew is he. Also to say That the Palistinians have not been livig in these areas untill the 20's is a joke. It is true like the Jews the Palistinians really didnt see them selfs as a nation as such i dont see how this changes anything thoe
 
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NewGuy    RE:More on Islamo-fascism, by former CIA Chief James Woolsley   12/10/2004 11:56:43 PM
"Has anyone else read Some resent studies which have casued many scientists to believe that the Jewish and Palistinian people of a shared heratige. It is now thought that they were all Kaninites and simply at one point seperated over cultural issues." Could you please cite this evidence? NewGuy
 
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swhitebull    RE:More on Islamo-fascism, by former CIA Chief James Woolsley   12/11/2004 12:05:07 AM
..It is true like the Jews the Palistinians really didnt see them selfs as a nation as such i dont see how this changes anything tho .. Spoken by someone who doesnt understand what it means to be jewish - or has any knowledge of jewish history. Nor is it apparent your read the article I cited, otherwise you couldnt have made the comments you did. The Jewish people have ALWAYS thought of themselves as a nation - the ONLY extant civilizations that can claim the same sense of historical continuity - IIRC - for 3500 years are the Hindus and the Chinese. swhitebull - please read up a bit - your nonsense is getting tiresome.
 
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Leopard_dave    RE:More on Islamo-fascism, by former CIA Chief James Woolsley   12/11/2004 3:20:45 AM
This documentary Aired on the australian ABC and i also read it online in a article i will endeavour to find it for you. Also the doco contended that the reason the bible stories of Moses and such were written were to bring the people together who were mainly traders and a such who really didnt indetify with any specific nation or peoples. the great story of them being the chosen people who rose up and freed themselves. Then also attacked and reclaimed Jeruslaem for themselfs. These scientists say there is absolutly no evidence at all of a large scale invasion or any invasion. At first they though maybe the jews just migrated and assimilated with the kaninites but as they looked more and more at the evidence the more obvious it seemed to them that the Jews didnt invade because they were allready there they were Kaninites. Frankly my friend your arogance is also getting tiresome. Sorry i know you think you are a expert but maybe just maybe i know its a long shot but maybe you dont know everything. Obviously this can never be proven its just what these scientistshave concluded. OH yes they also did genetic testing of modern day jews and palistinians they found the DNA to be pritty much identical. You want to be a asshole thats fine mate doesnt bother me.
 
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Vapid    RE:More on Islamo-fascism, QUESTION--SWB   12/11/2004 9:49:49 AM
SWB, I thought it was the Romans that gave the name Palestinian? Vapid
 
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swhitebull    RE:More on Islamo-fascism, QUESTION--SWB   12/11/2004 11:48:31 AM
..SWB, I thought it was the Romans that gave the name Palestinian?... Absolutely correct - following the umpteenth revolt of the Jewish people against Rome, Rome disperesed the majority of the jewish inhabitants to the far corners of the Empire, then renamed various areas of the land to Palestina (even naming several legions after it) in order to erase the connection of the Jews to the land. Of course, it's a corruption of the word Philistine, by whose actions the Romans gave pay to the definition of the word. swhitebull - of course, the diaspora took the Jews out of the land, but the land never left the Jews. For Leopard to confuse to the issue is no different than what's been done for centuries - the Arabs being the latest incarnation.
 
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mike_golf    Leo Dave, maybe you need some more experience/knowledge   12/11/2004 12:54:57 PM
SWB wrote: "For Leopard to confuse to the issue is no different than what's been done for centuries - the Arabs being the latest incarnation." And this is a running theme, both here and on the USA board Leo Dave. I don't think it's malicious, but you often don't know what you're talking about.
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:Leo Dave, maybe you need some more experience/knowledge   12/11/2004 1:19:21 PM
Now when I said that I'd like to smash Dave in the face with heavy mining equipment, I was perhaps being a little harsh and jumping to conclusions, as I've moved beyond my suspicions of him being French. I meant the heavy, old-time American equipment too, not the sissy, dual-use agro/construction stuff that the UN let Saddam keep, (which included 1000 tons of RDX). For this, I am sorry. My new position will be one that dictates Dave be melted down and poured back in his mother's womb.
 
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