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Subject: Americans must respect Islam
salaam al-aqaaid    5/13/2004 10:18:35 AM
The outrageous atrocities commited by Americans at the Abu al-Grayyib prison complex speaks to a need for the United States Americans to give sensetivity training to its entire military so that they will no longer offind Muslims with the contemptious use of women as prison guards and unsavery adiction to homosexual pornographies. These things are offinsive to the Muslims community. Have you no shame? You must remove all women and homosexuals from contact with Muslim prisoners. This is offinsive.
 
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rbrooku    RE: Elephant trap?   10/7/2004 11:05:07 PM
"..I am sure you would. Except before the invasion of Iraq- the were no' terrorists' operating in Iraq, ... WRONG WRONG WRONG Except for abu Nidal, abu Abbas, an Ansar in the north, the Salman Pak training camp, and the following, courtesies of American Kafir in reply to another poster on the US board:" Geez, more bs. All operating in the territory where Saddams little thugs couldn't get at 'em. WE were in effect protecting theh "terrorists" in Iraq. How much propoganda do we all have to hear before you far right wingers finally get some human shame for all the bs and blood?
 
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swhitebull    RE: Elephant trap?   10/7/2004 11:11:53 PM
..All operating in the territory where Saddams little thugs couldn't get at 'em... YOUR EVIDENCE? Yeah, right, that is why abu Nidal was murdered by saddam's thugs right in the baghdad area. abu Nidal LIVED in baghdad. SALMAN pak was owned, operated and MAINTAINED by Hussein. Where do YOU get your BS from? Ours is documented - more so than you can imagine. Im a FORMER liberal. Just saw too much truth in the world, which, unlike you, is part of my job to know about. You are just blowing malordorous wind from where your hindsight is. swhitebull
 
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rbrooku    RE: Elephant trap?   10/7/2004 11:12:13 PM
"You dont wait for a snake to bite you - you shoot it first - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, on order AMerican ships to fire on NAZI subs prior to america's entry into WW2. Thats' called PRE-EMPTIVE strikes, and that is the basis of the Bush Doctrine. Deal with it. " You're comparing that smirking little twit with FDR? And Iraq with WWII? What is this,comedy night? Joseph Stalin was literally a hundred times worse and a BILLION times more dangerous than Saddam. Did we invade the Soviet Union with a "preventive war" (the oxymoron of that alone should get the Necon who came up with it shot)? We had a lot of soviet inspired terrorism during the Cold War, but only the far right ever thought ideas like "preventive war" (god, how that trips off the tongue, like snake poison) was a sane idea. The only difference is that the Soviet Union was much larger and had nukes. So we build a logical case for countries opposed to us to have nukes too. How brilliant!
 
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PlatypusMaximus    RE:Grand Strategy...apologies for the shooting your mouth off phrase   10/7/2004 11:13:10 PM
>>>The folks in Iraq (no, our folks, not the a**holes with rpg's who W is counting on getting their help to get himself relected), believe in each other. I know people over there, and they are NOT happy with the boneheads at the top. OK, they are a minority right now, but the minority is growing. They just shut up now because they know the viciousness of the Neocons and the toady brass when dealing with whistle blowers <<< you'd better get it together, you have 20-odd days left to save the world. to describe your friends death in iraq as help from the enemy is kind of sickening.
 
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swhitebull    RE:Grand Strategy...apologies for the shooting your mouth off phrase   10/7/2004 11:16:42 PM
Two questions for you, rbrooku: Other than he's NOT Bush, and that he's a Democrat, give ONE coherent reason WHY you think The Kerry would make a better President than George W Bush. ANY coherent reason. swhitebull
 
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rbrooku    RE: Elephant trap?   10/7/2004 11:17:10 PM
"How many Iraqis, Iranians, Kurds, Kuwaitis and Israelis were killed by the minions of Hussein before Iraq was LIBERATED by the United States? swhitebull - deal with it." After 1991? Let's see, more Iraqis are dieing since we invaded, and no appreciable numbers of Iranians or Isrealis, so your advocating the U.S. take over sponsoring the killing of people because Hussein wasn't killing enough since 1991. swhitebull is such a humanist!
 
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rbrooku    RE: Elephant trap?   10/7/2004 11:23:17 PM
"They were too busy attacking Americans in Nairobi, Dar es Salaam, and New York, Yemen and saudi Arabia. I would rather fight them in Tikrit than Dar Es Salaam..." The smart thing would have been to kill them in Afghanistan. The dumb thing is too spend hundreds of billions to station our troops where more of them can get killed. So, if we weren't in Iraq, how many Americans would be getting killed anywhere right now? OK, can't answer a question like that because one can say what if the mon were made of green cheese. We can only say the Americans dieing in Iraq and now in America (that's right, my relative died RIGHT HERE several days ago) would have died. BONEHEADED is a polite way to say it.
 
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rbrooku    RE:What Is Fascist hatred?    10/7/2004 11:24:34 PM
"Carefully constructing alleged enemies, whose convenient conspiracies can be blamed for all of the failures and shortcomings of your own society is fascist hatred." So, the Neocons aren't just Neoimperialists, they are also fascisits? Sounds plausible.
 
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rbrooku    RE: Elephant trap?   10/7/2004 11:30:24 PM
"I see. So the Fedayeen Saddam was a dance troupe? The Abu Nidal wing of the Baath Party was a enviromental group? Ansar al-Islam was a Tupperware distributor?" Typical. The Fedayeen Saddam wasn't a dance troupe nor were they "terrorists" to anyone but Iraqis. The Abu Nidal wing of the Baath party we likewise not aimed at terrorism in America. Ansar al-Islam was operating in territory that the U.S. was virtually protecting from Saddam Hussein. So, all of these SCARY THREATS TO AMERICAN CITIZENS ON AMERICAN SOIL BY TERRORISTS IN IRAQ is simply more right wing bs. Keep telling the lie so maybe enough dummies will believe it.
 
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swhitebull    RE: Elephant trap?   10/7/2004 11:30:52 PM
..After 1991? Let's see, more Iraqis are dieing since we invaded, and no appreciable numbers of Iranians or Isrealis, so your advocating the U.S. take over sponsoring the killing of people because Hussein wasn't killing enough since 1991. swhitebull is such a humanist ... Obviously, your concern for the 200,000 slaughtered Iraqis found in the mass graves is less than underwhelming. Nice touch there, ace. Typical liberal touching compassion for their fellow man. Cheney had it right - it was no accident that Edwards didnt include the Iraqis in his mantra - it never OCCURRED to him in his blind adherence to the mantra and his blind faith that the Iraqis matter - as people, not statistics. Estimates of Hussein's slaughterhouses and death camps run upwards of 500-1000/week - PRIOR than the liberation of this bastard. So you think the Iraqis are worse off with Hussein gone than having him in power? RIGHT. Your attitude sickens me. swhitebull - I hope you find another cause that you can pollute with your pacifist poison. Why not save the Emperor Penguins of Antarctica - you'll do less harm there than undermining the will of the country here to see this thru. Many years ago, I heard one of the wisest comments I had ever heard. It was in 1991 - and it went something like this: Daddy, I know it's wrong to kill people, but sometimes its good to get rid of a bad man so that all those other people wont die. Are we going to kill Saddam Hussein? Who said that? My 7-year old daughter, after learning in school about the invasion of Kuwait by Saddam Hussein. She saw more clearly with her 7-year old eyes than you can only aspire to understand.
 
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