...How many American soldiers and civilians were killed by 'terrorists' in Iraq before the occupation of Iraq... They were too busy attacking Americans in Nairobi, Dar es Salaam, and New York, Yemen and saudi Arabia. I would rather fight them in Tikrit than Dar Es Salaam...

What is Fascist Hatred? How about producing and broadcasting dramatizations of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" on national television networks. As was done in Egypt and Syria. How about translating, printing and publicizing Arabic copies of "Mein Kampf"? How about extolling it in your country's schools? Carefully constructing alleged enemies, whose convenient conspiracies can be blamed for all of the failures and shortcomings of your own society is fascist hatred.

"I would much rather fight them in Tikrit than Tacoma". >>I am sure you would. Except before the invasion of Iraq- the were no' terrorists' operating in Iraq<< I see. So the Fedayeen Saddam was a dance troupe? The Abu Nidal wing of the Baath Party was a enviromental group? Ansar al-Islam was a Tupperware distributor? >>Iraq was a nation state which could be regulated by coercive diplomacy and force structures that US had in place<< In place where? In a place Osama Bin Laden was upset about? >>now US soldiers are dying in regular basis in Iraq.<< Yeah! They should have been protecting the thousands of Americans who died in car accidents this year! >>It is absurd to suggest if not for the invasion of Iraq, American soldiers would have been dying in Tacoma or Newark as result of insurgents.<< It is far more absurd to suggest that al-Qaeda was in 60 countries on 9/11, but not Iraq. >>The Iraq and 'war on terror' only meet in the minds of Neo-con project.<< Which is why Clinton bombed the innocent Iraqi WMD sites in 1998, in both Iraq and that "aspirin factory" in the Sudan with ties to Al Qaeda. Oops, there's a Republican in office now, we're supposed to pretend to be Dan Rather-level stupid. >>One by one the excuses that Bush/Blair made for link between 9/11 and Iraq have collapsed (Bush tried again on first presidential debate and was picked up on it by Kerry).<< Is that the Kerry that proposes handling the nuclear threat from Iran by giving them highly-enriched uranium?

...This is just simple racism, where do you get the idea that AQ is disciple of Hasan ibn Sabbah ... I did not say that OBL is a diciple of Hasan the Assassin. They are connected only in that they both believed death paradise to be superior to life. For their followers, and not themselves, of course. It is not racism, it is an example from history. It is not restricted to any one race or religion. The KKK and Christian Identity (Aryan Nation) are just as disgusting.

..Fascist hatred of the America, Israel and the West in general is the only approved release these states allow." What is fascist hatred? And is it differnt from conservative hatred, or liberal hatred or hatred of Muslims, or hatred of people of African descent.. Damn straight it is, since it permeates the religious fabric of an entire culture: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/954 swhitebull - anything unclear about this?

"I've lost 2 friends in Iraq: one to an accident, one in combat. I do miss them, but both of them strongly believed in the mission and why they were in Iraq. I have talked to literally dozens of soldiers who either are or have been in Iraq (including one who was wounded who worked for my company), and > 90% expressed the same sentiments. If Iraq is to be lost, I believe it will most likely be because of loss of will on the homefront, a loss of will which you are displaying here for all to see. This is the main reason why the terrorists film beheadings of innocent persons, and try to kill as many US soldiers as possible. Think about that the next time you shoot off your mouth." So, we should all just shut up, give a straight arm salute and continue to screw the pooch. Or were you just voting to change the national anthem to Deutchland, Deutchland ubber alles..."? Funny thing about democracy, people get to say something when their glorious leaders turn out to be boneheads.

"I just get a bit peeved when I see my fellow Americans make claims such as yours -- that those who die in Iraq are somehow "victims" of some insidious plot by the government, which in effect dishonors what they fought and believed in." And the fact that beyond the Secretary of State, no one in this Administration thought this through? That they lie and mislead about their own avoidance of risking there own behinds but don't bat an eye when it comes time to let big contracts to their friends and march others off to die, all that does not dishonors those killed? The folks in Iraq (no, our folks, not the a**holes with rpg's who W is counting on getting their help to get himself relected), believe in each other. I know people over there, and they are NOT happy with the boneheads at the top. OK, they are a minority right now, but the minority is growing. They just shut up now because they know the viciousness of the Neocons and the toady brass when dealing with whistle blowers.

...So, we should all just shut up, give a straight arm salute and continue to screw the pooch. Or were you just voting to change the national anthem to Deutchland, Deutchland ubber alles..."? Funny thing about democracy, people get to say something when their glorious leaders turn out to be boneheads... Or burn swastikas into the lawns of those they dont agree with, or storm and trash campaign officess of those they dont agree with, or key the cars of those diplaying signage they dont agree with, or tear the signs up of little girls that they dont agree with, or scream obscenities at little old ladies that dont agree with them either, all creating a climate of fear: http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200410070852.asp swhitebull - these guys are dying to protect YOUR right to free speech, it's too damn bad that YOUR compatriots dont understand the meaning of it.

There is ONE AND ONLY ONE REASON we need to give - to preserve OUR way of life - NOTHING else matters. http://www.ejectejecteject.com/ swhitebull

"rbrooku just doesn't get it. And after every response by elcid and others. Makes me think he wants the U.S. to lose or he's(?) a moron. I cannot think of any alternative. And NewGuy, I to have lost a good friend in Iraq who felt the same and I'm on my way over there for the second time this winter" I "get it". It's called "the shaft", and it's what every good Neocon has in store for the average American. Oh, a lot have already gotten it right up the backside, but by the time the idiots in charge mess things up as much as they plan to, everyone will "get it".