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Subject: Why can't Iran have nuclear energy ?
Ingaborg    2/24/2007 5:38:47 PM
I'm just womdering why the US, EU and the UN is so worried about Iran acquiring nuclear energy. Iran signed the NPT Iran can have nuclear under that same NPT Iran allowed UN inspectors in Iran does not have nuclear weapons Israel did not sign the NPT Israel doesn't allow UN inspectors in Israel has nuclear weapons Why this differrence ?? The ME is very instable and the best is that no country has nulcear weapons in that area.
 
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00_Chem_AJB       2/25/2007 1:21:13 PM
Iran having a nuclear industry to offset its demands for electricity is fine and dandy, but the problem lies when you see Iran has rejected sveral proposals set by the EU (Light water nuclear reactor and other technlogical benifits) and Russia (fuel shipment) both of which would provide civilian nuclear use and drasticly reduce the chances of their nuclear industry being used to produce nuclear weapons. Also their massive drive to enrich unranium on such a large scale is worrying, as most nuclear reactors use between 6%-30% enriched  unranium, also Iran has currently 1 nuclear reactor, with a few more planed and possibly under construction,(not sure) Iran seems to be wanting something more than nuclear fuel for power. And combine that with their build up of long range missiles... Yeah Iran wants civilian nuclear power, but their opperations seem a bit excessive for just that.
 
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xylene       2/25/2007 2:09:01 PM
Isreal should not have nuclear weapons, but that is a separate topic. If Isreal does have nuclear weapons, Isreal has shown and proven decades of restraint and has proven to be a dependable possessor of nuclear technology. 
 
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00_Chem_AJB       2/25/2007 2:15:04 PM
Israel hasn't called for the destruction of another nation, also as well as been aimed at it's neighbors Israel pointed some of their warheads at the Soviet Union, as they believed any Arab invasion would have to have some seroius.
 
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Softwar       2/25/2007 2:32:06 PM
Hezbollah and terrorism are not the only visible forms of Iranian intentions.
 
Running parades with banners calling for the complete destruction of the US and Israel make lots of people uncomfortable.  If the policy you project calls for burning cities to the ground then expect others to want to take your toys away from you.
 
If Iran allowed UN inspection and accounted for the fissionable materials that would be just fine.  The government in Tehran has thumbed its nose at the UN.  So this ain't just the US v. Iran anymore.
 
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00_Chem_AJB       2/25/2007 2:43:38 PM
Oops missed a bit out on my last post:
Israel hasn't called for the destruction of another nation, also as well as been aimed at it's neighbors Israel pointed some of their warheads at the Soviet Union, as they believed any Arab invasion would have to have some seroius Soviet backing.
 
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Ingaborg       2/25/2007 2:58:25 PM

Iran having a nuclear industry to offset its demands for electricity is fine and dandy, but the problem lies when you see Iran has rejected sveral proposals set by the EU (Light water nuclear reactor and other technlogical benifits) and Russia (fuel shipment) both of which would provide civilian nuclear use and drasticly reduce the chances of their nuclear industry being used to produce nuclear weapons. Also their massive drive to enrich unranium on such a large scale is worrying, as most nuclear reactors use between 6%-30% enriched  unranium, also Iran has currently 1 nuclear reactor, with a few more planed and possibly under construction,(not sure) Iran seems to be wanting something more than nuclear fuel for power. And combine that with their build up of long range missiles... Yeah Iran wants civilian nuclear power, but their opperations seem a bit excessive for just that.


Thank you for your answer, it contains useful information. I knew that Russia offered to take the heat off and did a decent proposal to the Iranians to take care of the nuclear waste, but just wondered why Iran rejected that.
If Iran wants to make nuclear weapons, how long will it take before they have them ?
Is it likely that Israel or the US will strike their facilities ?
 
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Ingaborg       2/25/2007 3:06:15 PM

Isreal should not have nuclear weapons, but that is a separate topic. If Isreal does have nuclear weapons, Isreal has shown and proven decades of restraint and has proven to be a dependable possessor of nuclear technology. 


Israel is not an agressive state, but they have shown in the past hey can win a war with conventional weapons.
Why do they need nuclear weapons ?
It makes the already instable region less safe.
 
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00_Chem_AJB       2/25/2007 3:40:48 PM
Israel got their nukes in the 70's as a security measure to make sure something like the Arab invasion of 1973 doesn't happen again, and like I said before they aimed some towards the Soviets to destroy any resupply operations to the Arabs, they've just held onto them and upgraded them, becasue they don't feel secure, I mean back in 1991 Iraq fire Scud SRBMs at Israeli cities.
 
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Ingaborg       2/25/2007 4:06:26 PM

Israel got their nukes in the 70's as a security measure to make sure something like the Arab invasion of 1973 doesn't happen again, and like I said before they aimed some towards the Soviets to destroy any resupply operations to the Arabs, they've just held onto them and upgraded them, becasue they don't feel secure, I mean back in 1991 Iraq fire Scud SRBMs at Israeli cities.


But Iraq only fired some conventional scuds, because they knew that Israel would retaliate with nuclear weapons, but Israel just having some gas or bio weapons is a deterrence enough. And Israel didn't fire back at Iraq because we told them so. If Iran can nuke Israel, it will still not do so, that's why there's MAD
 
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Softwar       2/25/2007 4:13:03 PM


But Iraq only fired some conventional scuds, because they knew that Israel would retaliate with nuclear weapons, but Israel just having some gas or bio weapons is a deterrence enough. And Israel didn't fire back at Iraq because we told them so. If Iran can nuke Israel, it will still not do so, that's why there's MAD

Then you have answered your own question...  Why does Israel have nukes? 
 
However, MAD only works when you are fighting a sane opponent who is not willing to sacrafice millions in the name of God.  How do you deal with a terrorist or worse a crazed religious fanatic?

 The most dangerous period is when Iran has a few nukes - there is a temptation to use or lose them.  So few nukes are usually placed close together for security reasons - tempting targets for a first strike.  Look at the tension between Pakistan and India.

 
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