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Subject: Hey.not Macedonia,but FYROM.
great greece    11/6/2004 6:59:31 AM
read the history all of u.Macedonia is a word that has been used by greeks over 2000 years.pah
 
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swhitebull    RE:Hey.not Macedonia,but FYROM.   11/6/2004 4:29:23 PM
...read the history all of u.Macedonia is a word that has been used by greeks over 2000 years... Yes, as a word for "CONQUERING NATION". The Greek city-states lost all pretense to vitality as a culture after the battle of Chaeronea, or did you forget that little bit of history, as well. I wasnt aware that "Hellenism" was the child of Greek expansionism, but seem to recall it was the result of Alexander of Makedonia, and the Diadokoi that spread the word. So your point is? Seeing as it was those "barbarian" Makedonians that conquered a bunch of petty little warring city-states that hated each other more than liked each other. You would be hard-pressed to find any reputable academic - other than a greek one - that would claim that the current-day greeks are in any way genetically-related to the ancient Greeks of yore. Bunch of Slavic immigrants, mixing with the natives, and crusaders et al. Confer - Fine: The Early Medieval Balkans. swhitebull swhitebull
 
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Gothic Irishmen    RE:Hey.not Macedonia,but FYROM.   11/8/2004 12:55:00 AM
agreed with swhitebull and uh about the name its " macedonia " because the USA has finally recognized it and i dont see Uk complaining about Ireland using the name ireland because its the name of one of there provinces
 
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steved       3/2/2008 8:19:52 PM
Coming after 4 years to answer this issue...
Macedonians was a Greek tribe as Athenians Spartans Thraces...I am not guessing as you, there are proofs, ancients scripts (Herodotus mentions++) that they called themselves Greeks.Thats for the history, the geographical part now...its true... FYROM owns land of the ancient Macedonia as Greece does as Bulgary does, this is not a sign that the people are Macedonians.They dont even speak a language that fits to the ancient. Otherwise a simple Greek citizen could recognize many words from the ancient scripts!
And finally the TRUTH about the hole thing and the reason of why Greece insists is what could cause a neighbour country called Macedonia in Greece?I m sure you ve heard about Kosovo, you 've heard about minorities...bingo!



 
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MaknotFYROM       3/3/2008 1:51:22 AM

So have the Macedonian people.

 
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MaknotFYROM       3/3/2008 1:54:03 AM

...read the history all of u.Macedonia is a word that has been used by greeks over 2000 years...
Quote button did not work. That goes to my above post.
 

 
 
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steved       3/4/2008 10:06:30 AM
i couldnt stop you think yourself as a Macedonian but every man who thinks his fathers were the Macedons its at least stupid!
Through history its clear they dont have any clue to claim themselves as Macedons.Hey man, someone decide to call you like that and you think its true...Sorry but thats the truth!You have the chance through internet to find out.So Skopjans dont even have a part of the Great Macedonian History, so the whole thing is now geographical!
Ok FYROM owns a part of the old Macedonia region so it could have Macedonia as their formal name, but cant stand alone!Name it New Macedonia, but really why dont you try to make your own history?Its worst now because Albanians would affect you soon if you decide that way...

 
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