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Subject: Country with best conventional armed forces (army, air force, navy)
dba    11/3/2006 3:46:57 PM
Which country would be ranked #1 in an all-out conventional war involvng all armed forces like WW2? Obviously I would exclude US & Russia in this ranking. And no nukes. And I would say size matters also. So even if UK army was really good its small size would make it inferior to say China. Thanks.
 
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Sujies       11/8/2006 1:09:32 PM
once again it has evolved into a UK - France contest,
cant you understand that the days of  uk or france fighting wars on their own
making is over?,  leave alone the question of their capabilities

But id say China, India, Koreas, Japan fighting wars are pretty much assured,
but then in our enlightened world you might not see another big one for the next century...
 
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Herald1234       11/8/2006 1:32:27 PM
Maybe I should have used a Grenada-sized operation instead as a comparison of logistical magnitude?
 
Do you have a non-British/non American example of an operation which defines the limiter for which I searched when I was trying to estimate a real world example of an operation beyond known French capability?
 
Perhaps some Indian operation from the the 1971 India/Pakistan war?
 
Scratches head over that one.
 
Herald
 
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Sujies       11/8/2006 3:23:05 PM
for starters,

look up how many troops the Indian army moved during the Gujarat earthquake,
i think a few hundred thousands, all in a time of three days,

I remember some cia document saying it would take the same time for US
to move so many, and much longer for the others.
 
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Herald1234    Interesting.   11/8/2006 3:44:50 PM

for starters,

look up how many troops the Indian army moved during the Gujarat earthquake,
i think a few hundred thousands, all in a time of three days,

I remember some cia document saying it would take the same time for US
to move so many, and much longer for the others.



I just did.
 
 
 
 
It was an operational debacle that compares favorably to the smaller Katrina disaster.
 
Herald
 
 
 

 
 
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Galrahn       11/9/2006 1:59:23 PM
 
I'll take the Chinese Army, Japanese Navy, French Air Force, and British Marines against anything you have.
 
My numbers + technology would win.
 
 
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The Lizard King    Galrahn   11/9/2006 2:29:20 PM
 I might take the Isreali Airforce over the French Airforce
 
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The Lizard King    Galrahn   11/9/2006 2:36:30 PM
I would definately take British Commandos & Special Op's though...
 
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Herald1234       11/9/2006 4:35:41 PM

 

I'll take the Chinese Army, Japanese Navy, French Air Force, and British Marines against anything you have.

 

My numbers + technology would win.

 


Chinese army? ROTFLMAO.
Japanese navy? A good defendable choice, but Royal Navy is probably better man for man.
French Air Force? Please. The RAF is better.(And don't argue the bean counter's argument. RAF pilots simply outclass their French counterparts, as do RAF ground crew, as does RAF doctrine and battledrill.)
Have to agree about the Royal Marines  
Herald
 
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Yimmy       11/9/2006 8:17:58 PM
What is so great about the RAF?
 
 
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Galrahn       11/9/2006 10:51:08 PM
Chinese army? ROTFLMAO.
Japanese navy? A good defendable choice, but Royal Navy is probably better man for man.

French Air Force? Please. The RAF is better.(And don't argue the bean counter's argument. RAF pilots simply outclass their French counterparts, as do RAF ground crew, as does RAF doctrine and battledrill.)

I didn't exactly answer the question I was more making the point I would take the combination of those 4 outside the US if I was bent on world domination.

Since the question is who is best, my opinion is:

The JMSDF is well ahead of the Royal Navy today. The Royal Navy is in that gap period where they have retired quite a few old ships and haven't brought online their new ones.

The Royal Marines everytime.

The RAF is best with its overall capability and balance between strike and logistics, but if it is world domination I'll take the extra logistics the French air force has, after all, I'd need it to support my army.

I hate to bust your bubble with reality, but the Chinese would overwhelm the British Army on the battlefield. The Chinese Army has 7 million people, the British army is fewer than 200,000. I'm not saying the Chinese Army is the best, but head to head, numbers matter.
 
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