Until today, it's still the Okinawa. In Iraq or Yugo wars, the major role are still land based airforce. And even in Okinawa, the much weakened Japan air force still managed to slip in many suicid fighters. If it were today, US could have lost that war.

""The weight of the subsonic (0.9 Mach) Yingji-802 is reduced from 815 kilograms to 715 kilograms, but its range is increased from 42 kilometers to 120 kilometers. The 165 kg. (363 lb.) warhead is just as powerful as the earlier version. Since the missile has a small radar reflectivity and is only about five to seven meters above the sea surface when it attacks the target, and since its guidance equipment has strong anti-jamming capability, target ships have a very low success rate in intercepting the missile." ---You are kidding right? Niether China or France has the kind of technology of logistics to challenge a single CSF anywhere except right off of the coastline litterally in the littorals. And even then they would take a serious beating with no guarantee of success. Only Russia after a tremedous effort could even hope to challenge a US CSF out to sea and even that would have slim to little chance today.

"Even that no US AC has ever shot down a single one" No US AC has been fired upon by an anti-ship missile.

" Such an equipment would cost about 140/130 billion $ in procurement.It is feasible in few years if a major power want to do it with advanced technology (like France). And it would cost much less than US carriers task force.." UH, for $130-40 Billion, couldn't you just buy 11 of your own CVN's complete with aircraft and reasonable amount of support ships?

I knew you didn't know what the hell your talking about. The C-802 is not the equal of a harpoon, and has never been considered in the class of the Exocet, at least according to several sources that rate anti-ship missiles including Janes. According to Janes, its primary weakness is it has the RCS of the missile is about the same as a private jet, although the 75 mile top range is also a drawback. Just in case you read too much Newsmax news, the only anti-ship missile in the entire Russian and Chinese inventories that worries other Navies is the Klub (SS-N-27), which is currently considered one of the most advanced anti-ship missile in the world. China reported has 30 of the missiles delivered with 6 of their Kilo's. Seriously though, the C-802 with a 75 mile range isn't going to adjust a CSG position at sea, which would be over 200nm offshore under any situation anyway. Which platform can get into range to fire the C-802 and sink a Carrier?

How about have training mission with the United States aircraft carriers then when they don't expect it fire upon them and take them out? Have them close to your shoreline as well and fire all you have at them. That is the only way I see it happening :P Why do people compare forces of today if there was going to be a war against the United States? I would use 70% of my country's budget on the war. Besides chances are it would be nuclear it is easier that way and destroys the most. The United States is not invincible and if the other country has a large nuclear weapons stockpile they are bound to cause some damage. Even with conventional weapons it could be done if the country is seriously motivated. Other countries are rising up though the United States is falling in the world economy actually it is still fairly powerful but Europe has seen a bit of a recovery and Asia has a growing upper and middle class and so do some south American nations. 50 years from now I think the world economy is going to be more evenly divided by regions instead of the west dominating it. Just 15 years ago the United States made up 30% of the world economy now it is at 20%.

A team of highly trained kamakazi killer whales with surgicaly embetted nuclear warheads. Who would suspect Orca of being a nuclear grade suicide bomber?

>>ie Material requirements. Take a small thing like taking out the 11 aircraft carriers to start--can anyone even do that?? Just the 11 Big Ships out there---<< 22 combat divers with 11 limpet mines.

Hmmm.........what about the OZ Navy Collins class subs have a go at US Aircraft carriers. --during RIMPAC 2000 it was disclosed that HMAS Waller had sunk two American nuclear submarines and gotten dangerously close to the carrier USS Abraham Lincoln. Even more ominous, asserted researcher Maryanne Kelton, is that: “Even though the exercises were planned and the US group knew that Waller was in the designated target area, they were still unable to locate it. New Minister for Defence, Robert Hill, recorded later that the ‘Americans are finding them exceptional boats…in exercises with the Americans they astound the Americans in terms of their capability, their speed, their agility, their loitering capacity, they can do all sorts of things that the American submarines can’t do as well.’” In 2003, Commander Peter Miller, US Navy, spoke about his experiences with the Australian diesel submarines, and he paid the greatest (politically correct) compliment that a nuclear submariner can make. He said that the Australian diesel submarine was “on a par” with US nuclear submarines, and that “The Collins are great submarines.” -- from http://www.g2mil.com/thompson.htm>http://www.g2mil.com/thompson.htm Despite the money spent on our Diesel powered tubs they very capable subs.

RIMPACs are one thing. In a shooting war the Collins die like anybody else. Not saying they arent capable. Just not likely to last long against a threat of the USN/DoD magnitude.