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Subject: China to invade taiwan in 2010 or 2011
Gladiator    4/1/2005 12:48:16 PM
China's entire military machine is dedicated towards the invasion of Taiwan. China's 5 year military modernization plan will soon reach a creshendo. If China invades Taiwan today (2005) it will suffer nearly 600,000 casualties in its initial invasion and nearly another 500,000 losses in conquering Taiwan. Nearly 1/2 every two Chinese soldier invading Taiwan will die or be wounded. China has an unlimited supply of man power but the losses in equipement will be so heavy that it will be unable to sustain any attack on Taiwan for long, especially after US starts supplying Taiwan with weaponry. Taiwan has a very powerful Army, Navy and Air Force. CHINESE STRATEGY: 2011 INVASION OF TAIWAN Any Invasion of Taiwan will require a defeat of Taiwan's Air Force. This has to be achieved within the first few hours. China's only option is to saturate Taiwanese Air Space with Chinese Bombers and Air Force. That even though Taiwan will shoot down over 1,000 Chinese Planes, Taiwan will it self loose its supply of Air-to-air Missiles, and many of the Runways will be unservicable for fighter Aircraft. China even though will lose around 1,000 Air Craft, will have enough in reserve to sustain groud support for the invasion and give air cover to its naval task force. USA will not directly engage the Chinese Military. But supplies from Japan and South Korea such as F-16, F-15 Fighters, Aegis Warships could reach Taiwan in time to thwart any Chinese Invasion. Taiwan's ground Army is quite powerful. China will suffer massive casualties in its invasion. China's strategy will be to invade close to Taipei. By Invading close to Taipei and hoping that chinese tanks can withstand the punishment of Taiwan's feared anti-tank forces and the remaining Taiwanese fighters that it can soon cut off Taipei from the rest of Taiwan. Once that is done, it can re-augment its forces and establish a naval blockade around the northern half of Taiwan. USA will be forced to take the longer road to re-supply Taiwan from the South. China hopes to use this time to launch rapid armored thrusts deep into southern Taiwan and the continued arrival of Chinese Infantry. China hopes to use human waves attack to overwhelm the Taiwanese defenders and finally defeat them. TAIWANESE/USA STRATEGY: The US 7th Fleet is one of the most powerful Naval Forces in the World. Any build up of Chinese forces in the strait of Taiwan, the USA will soon be alerted of the impeding invasion of Taiwan. China will hope to mask their intent by engaging many war games. So that any build up chinese forces in the Taiwan strait will look like a war game. The Taiwanese air-force is quite powerful and will shoot down many chinese fighters if they cross into Taiwanese Air Space. As Soon as Chinese Planes have been detected, USA will rush supplies to Taiwan. Meaning F-16, F-15, F-18. USA will not directly engage the Chinese Forces but give enough armaments to Taiwan to stop the Chinese Invasion. USA naval forces will not engage the Chinese naval forces but instead will augment the Taiwanese ground amry with enough Abrams Battle Tanks, Bradley Fighting Vehicles. USA will even transfer control of several warships into Taiwanese control so that they can engage the Chinese Invasion Task Force. Chinese overwhelmingly numerical superiority will be hard to defeat. The only hope that Taiwan has to defeat the Chinese invading force on the beaches. USA has one of the fastest supply responese time in the world. B-52 bombers and C-130 will rapidly give Taiwan enough weapons to defeat any Chinese Invasion.
 
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PeregrinePike    RE:china is a big trading partner only because   4/1/2005 10:58:34 PM
...of one thing: cheap + DISCIPLINED (or docile) labor. A small and vital distinction - most of the world's labor force operates on wages lower than the Chinese... but they cannot be unified/disciplined for line works without reverting to autocratic govts (which we will condemn and boycott). China has played its cards well so far - improving its people and its prestige too... but lack of smartness was never a Chinese problem - knowing when to stop was & is ;-)
 
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EW3    RE:China to invade taiwan in 2010 or 2011   4/1/2005 11:12:05 PM
If China wants to attack our forces they will have to attack Japan. Big mistake. Japan would like nothing better than see China defanged, particularly in light of the situation with gas/oil drilling in the East China Sea. Attacking our forces also makes the decision easy for the US, no matter who is president.
 
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gixxxerking    bobfall2005   4/1/2005 11:47:11 PM
I guess Four things so long as the world doesnt have some dramatic unforseen change. 1. They will wait until the U.S. is in another election cycle and then really start hinting at war VERY LOUDLY in an attempt to provoke and American reaction for study. IF the U.S. population shows the slightest inclination of war weariness and due to the WOT AND the the popular candidate is ANTI-WAR baised OR a DEMOCRAT, they will attack. If GWB can rally popular support for the defense of Taiwan during the period of Rhetoric AND his successor is the popular candidate there will be no Chinese attack. 2. If for any reason a shooting war between the US and/or North Korea and Iran starts, especially North Korea, they will attack. 3. The may recieve logistical support from Russia but no direct military involvement. Too risky for Russia unless the Russians are attacked first. 4. Under no circumstances will the Chinese "initiate" hostilities on the United States. The Chinese will gamble on the speed of their attack and U.S. being unwilling to get militarily involved. However they will be prepared for U.S. involvement to the best of their ability. What I think the US should do, 1. Let Taiwan bleed the Chinese 2. Use Mines, SSNs, SOF and Stealth Aircraft(Armed with weapons on the Taiwanese TO&E) clandestinely to attrit the Chinese before officially getting involved. 3. Totally destroy the Chinese Strategic Nuclear Force with nuclear weapons if necessary to ensure success. 4. Destroy all Chinese flagged shipping, Militarey and Civilian until they withdraw. 5. Respond "Officially" with the U.S. Military if methods 1 to 4 dont work within 2 weeks.
 
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EW3    RE:gixxx   4/2/2005 12:04:59 AM
"3. Totally destroy the Chinese Strategic Nuclear Force with nuclear weapons if necessary to ensure success." Now this idea really scares me. If we try to do this we better get them ALL within a few minutes of each other including their SSBN. As Dirty Harry would say, do you feel lucky? I don't. One errant bomb, one B-2 shot down, one mission gets off late and they may wind up with a few missiles to use. We also have to assume they have bombers. Don't open that can of worms. If we come to the aid of Taiwan we will be viewed as helping protect an ally and we win politically as well as militarily with minimum effort and loses. Anything beyond that an we're asking for big problems.
 
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gixxxerking    Chinese SSBN   4/2/2005 12:35:53 AM
Not Operational
 
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EW3    RE:Chinese SSBN   4/2/2005 12:52:51 AM
I get conflicting results on that. Globalsecurity agrees with you, but missilethreat doesn't. http://missilethreat.com/threat/china.html Since it's based on the Han class sub, which was the one the Japanese tracked all over the place, I suspect we could take it out pretty quickly. Even if in port there is the matter of the warheads though. While they may not be able to deliver them, they might give them to terrorists just to get even with us for blowing up their missiles.
 
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gixxxerking    RE:Chinese SSBN   4/2/2005 1:06:38 AM
Terrorist already have nukes and we are dealing with it now.
 
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Jimme    RE:China to invade taiwan in 2010 or 2011   4/2/2005 1:09:16 AM
Under current US Law if China attacks Tawain, a democracy, there would be a direct US military response. no need for Congress approval or public popularity. Law was passed i believe during Vietnam era to curb communist expansion. So China would be facing US military directly. Its the reason why China passed the anti-succession law.
 
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Gladiator    Is USA Selling any more weapons to Taiwan?   4/2/2005 3:06:35 AM
Taiwan's Army is about 500,000 including reserves. China will probably invade with a force of 3 Million Men. I think the best way to defeat the Chinese Invasion is to sink it at Sea. Why doesn't USA sell Taiwan some state of the art sumbarines or Aegis Warships, F-14 and F-18 Tomcats, Harriers, etc. I think if Taiwan can inflict enough losses on the Chinese invasion Force. China could manage to invade Taiwan, but without reinforcements, its entire invasion will be defeated. It will be like the Gengis Khan's invasion of Japan in the 12th Century. Just a thougth
 
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Gladiator    Why don't Europe sell weapons to Taiwan?   4/2/2005 3:10:30 AM
Europe is a democracy. Why is it that its only USA that is selling weapons to Taiwan? England could sell some Harrier and Tornado Fighters to Taiwan. France and Germany can sell some Anti-Missile Defenses and some Le-Clerc or Leopard Tanks or Javelin Anti-Tank Missiles. This is quite hypocritical for democracies not to back another democracy for profit from cheap labour market.
 
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