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Subject: Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?
ChaosEnforcer    2/1/2005 3:27:55 AM
Whenever I read upon the US Navy SEALS, it says that US Navy Seals go through the toughest training in the world. When I read about the SAS, it said they go through the toughest training in the world. So which is tougher? Navy SEALs or British SAS. I know that Navy SEALS train for Sea, Air and Land Operations whereas British SAS are an Special Air Service which means more dedication towards Air. So what do you guys think? USA Navy SEALS or British SAS. Who has the more tougher training?
 
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DropBear    RE:Drop - VC    2/5/2005 1:14:53 AM
Still has me wondering what medal was supposedly struck from the remnants of a ww1 tank?? I shall have to google that one, as I am sure I read it somewhere....
 
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S.C.P    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/13/2005 1:31:53 PM
The British SBS is the Toughest. Its tougher than SAS.
 
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John Barry    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/16/2005 2:16:29 AM
Why is it usually US Navy Seals vs British SAS? What about Delta? Delta is closely patterned on the British SAS. Is it just that the Seals and SAS have better press?
 
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TDHM    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/17/2005 6:04:35 AM
Because you've done both I imagine... SBS and SAS share the same basic Selection. Thats it.
 
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Heorot    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/17/2005 8:00:04 AM
But the SAS has a manpower problem at the moment. Experienced troopers are pi$$ed off because the extra commitments mean that they are rarely at home with their families and their pay is nothing particularly special. As a result, many are leaving to join private security companies where they can earn 4 times the money and have a month at home every other month. Added to that, the pool of recruits (paras mainly) is drying up as they are struggling to maintain staffing levels themselves while SAS service is looking more unattractive for the reasons mentioned above.
 
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JohnBarry    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/17/2005 9:29:29 AM
” Because you've done both I imagine...” TDHM- Was that directed to me? If the question was how did I know that Delta is patterned on the SAS, I think that is pretty widely known. Col. Charlie Beckwith founder of Delta served with the British SAS in the early 60’s and when he came back to the US, he tried for years to start a American version of the SAS. Any of the books on sercet groups like the SAS or Delta have to be taken with a grain of salt but from Beckwith's own book on Delta, their organization and selection process are both heavily patterned on the SAS. I didn’t say I was in a position to decide who was tougher. To me, when debating on groups like the SAS, Seals and Delta where so much is secret, a lot of the debate is done on the group’s rep. I think you can get a general idea of different groups’ organization and training but there is not enough open source info to choose between them. They only ones who real know are the ones in the groups and they are probably not saying.
 
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RM-Nod    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/17/2005 10:39:07 AM
The SAS has been given another Sabre Squadron which should help with manning problems and the re-roling of 1 Para should help out as well.
 
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TDHM    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/18/2005 6:18:50 AM
No, it was directed to the indiviual who gave us the gem of wisdom that SBS training is harder than SAS training.
 
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pancho       7/4/2014 3:46:10 AM
British SAS training is provably the toughest in the world. SAS recruits have been know to die in training in the Brecon Beacons freezing to death for example. This is not overly rare and the toughness of this training has gone under scrutiny in the UK.
 
 The SAS use live rounds against each other in training and it is a known FACT that SAS solders will pose in between targets in the dark in the Killing House while live rounds are used - you must be this good.
 
SAS do not use the buddy system as is the case in the BUD/S training course. You must go it alone and be prepared to drawn entirely from your own will. An SAS man is trained far beyond the SEALs for survival training and this is a living hell in and of itself.
 
The training is much longer as can be verified. You must survive desert and jungle training without the encouragement of others. You are alone and must be prepared to be one man army. There is a intense interrogation phase the likes of which would be illegal in the USA. Verify for yourself.
 
Artic training is also initiated and is the most demanding training a man will endure. If you investigate thoroughly you will find you would much rather endure SEALs or Russian or Mossad training instantly. Do your homework and you will discover that the SAS are rated by experts as being the best and toughest. The SEALS and Delta force are based on the SAS training and remember that the SAS predate the SEALS by 20 years which is being built on every day.
 
Finally observe the missions of the SAS in comparison to the rest of the world. They are the gold standard and that mark is taken very seriously.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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lunar    quddedef    9/3/2014 3:45:09 PM


British SAS training is provably the toughest in the world. SAS recruits have been know to die in training in the Brecon Beacons freezing to death for example. This is not overly rare and the toughness of this training has gone under scrutiny in the UK.

 

 The SAS use live rounds against each other in training and it is a known FACT that SAS solders will pose in between targets in the dark in the Killing House while live rounds are used - you must be this good.

 

SAS do not use the buddy system as is the case in the BUD/S training course. You must go it alone and be prepared to drawn entirely from your own will. An SAS man is trained far beyond the SEALs for survival training and this is a living hell in and of itself.

 

The training is much longer as can be verified. You must survive desert and jungle training without the encouragement of others. You are alone and must be prepared to be one man army. There is a intense interrogation phase the likes of which would be illegal in the USA. Verify for yourself.

 

Artic training is also initiated and is the most demanding training a man will endure. If you investigate thoroughly you will find you would much rather endure SEALs or Russian or Mossad training instantly. Do your homework and you will discover that the SAS are rated by experts as being the best and toughest. The SEALS and Delta force are based on the SAS training and remember that the SAS predate the SEALS by 20 years which is being built on every day.

 

Finally observe the missions of the SAS in comparison to the rest of the world. They are the gold standard and that mark is taken very seriously.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Wow Pancho. Your not talking like someone whose unbiased. Come on man. Really? There is enough material out there to show that SAS doesn't have the toughest training. You want to live off that false myth of SAS greatness, go ahead. But the facts don't support you. SEAL training is all water bourne training, which is much harder than your average terrain based training. Wow. the 30 mile rucksack march. Is that it. THe Seals are tortured in the ocean and in the pools. You really don't know what your talking about when you say SEal Training is based on SAS model. This is just your typical British inferiority complex who still can't come to grips with the fact that SAS isn't that special anymore. Look at the recent track records. SAS soldiers captured in Libya and Syria. They just don't have the capabilities and resources as their American counterparts.
 
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