Still has me wondering what medal was supposedly struck from the remnants of a ww1 tank?? I shall have to google that one, as I am sure I read it somewhere....

The British SBS is the Toughest. Its tougher than SAS.

Why is it usually US Navy Seals vs British SAS? What about Delta? Delta is closely patterned on the British SAS. Is it just that the Seals and SAS have better press?

Because you've done both I imagine... SBS and SAS share the same basic Selection. Thats it.

But the SAS has a manpower problem at the moment. Experienced troopers are pi$$ed off because the extra commitments mean that they are rarely at home with their families and their pay is nothing particularly special. As a result, many are leaving to join private security companies where they can earn 4 times the money and have a month at home every other month. Added to that, the pool of recruits (paras mainly) is drying up as they are struggling to maintain staffing levels themselves while SAS service is looking more unattractive for the reasons mentioned above.

” Because you've done both I imagine...” TDHM- Was that directed to me? If the question was how did I know that Delta is patterned on the SAS, I think that is pretty widely known. Col. Charlie Beckwith founder of Delta served with the British SAS in the early 60’s and when he came back to the US, he tried for years to start a American version of the SAS. Any of the books on sercet groups like the SAS or Delta have to be taken with a grain of salt but from Beckwith's own book on Delta, their organization and selection process are both heavily patterned on the SAS. I didn’t say I was in a position to decide who was tougher. To me, when debating on groups like the SAS, Seals and Delta where so much is secret, a lot of the debate is done on the group’s rep. I think you can get a general idea of different groups’ organization and training but there is not enough open source info to choose between them. They only ones who real know are the ones in the groups and they are probably not saying.

The SAS has been given another Sabre Squadron which should help with manning problems and the re-roling of 1 Para should help out as well.

No, it was directed to the indiviual who gave us the gem of wisdom that SBS training is harder than SAS training.

Wow Pancho. Your not talking like someone whose unbiased. Come on man. Really? There is enough material out there to show that SAS doesn't have the toughest training. You want to live off that false myth of SAS greatness, go ahead. But the facts don't support you. SEAL training is all water bourne training, which is much harder than your average terrain based training. Wow. the 30 mile rucksack march. Is that it. THe Seals are tortured in the ocean and in the pools. You really don't know what your talking about when you say SEal Training is based on SAS model. This is just your typical British inferiority complex who still can't come to grips with the fact that SAS isn't that special anymore. Look at the recent track records. SAS soldiers captured in Libya and Syria. They just don't have the capabilities and resources as their American counterparts.