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Subject: Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?
ChaosEnforcer    2/1/2005 3:27:55 AM
Whenever I read upon the US Navy SEALS, it says that US Navy Seals go through the toughest training in the world. When I read about the SAS, it said they go through the toughest training in the world. So which is tougher? Navy SEALs or British SAS. I know that Navy SEALS train for Sea, Air and Land Operations whereas British SAS are an Special Air Service which means more dedication towards Air. So what do you guys think? USA Navy SEALS or British SAS. Who has the more tougher training?
 
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GOP    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS? - Blue wings   2/2/2005 6:11:29 PM
Wouldn't the SAS and SEALs be much better killers than the COMSUBIN (sp?) because of the weaponry and better technology that they have (sas and seals)? Just a question, I don't know much about it
 
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Bluewings    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS? - Blue wings   2/2/2005 7:04:52 PM
I do not think that I am THAT wrong . It would be nice to have one of them here right now ;-) The Regiment is not that big , and being cut into special branchs make each branch big enough to carry small 10-30 Men Ops . Btw , I never tried to deny the SAS , I love them ! :-) When I was talking about Geo-politics , it is indeed the case for the Regiment . For the past 5-6 years , 80% of theirs Tasks have been performed in the sanbox , in Afghanistan , Pakistan . Their training reflect theirs tasks . When was the last time the Regiment was involved in Jungle Ops ? About the SpecOps Divers , an old friend of mine was in the Commando Hubert (remember the Rainbow Warrior ?)and he always told me the Italian COMSUBIN was the most impressive divers Unit he ever worked with . Do not underestimate them . Italians and French always have been the best Divers out there ~hey we did create the trade !~ and did set up all kinds of Records . To go back to the SAS , all I can say is they don 't like much the actual British Goverment . Ah .... the good old times of Major/Thatcher ...... Cheers .
 
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RM-Nod    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS? - Blue wings   2/3/2005 12:02:14 AM
Well I was lucky enough to be able to be at a presentation by the SAS (23) in which they said what I have told you, plus I've had the pleasure of knowning a few of the old lads who've always had a very interesting story to tell. They do train for any task, each troop specialises in there given role (boat troops, mountain troop etc) and most soldiers go though these troops anyway, so they'll do a tour in boat, then go to mountain etc. So they all train in all of these roles, but train for specific role a lot more; so there numbers aren't a problem. You also have to remember that the UK has the 22 SAS, 21 SAS, 23 SAS, SBS and SBS(TA) as special forces as well as being able to call on the MLs and Pathfinders of the Marines and Paras. Overall numbers aren't much of a problem. As to what they're doing, no one knows except for them and a very select few. However they do regularly operate in most terrains be it fighting Al Queda in Afghanistan or drug lords in Columbia.
 
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TDHM    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS? - Blue wings   2/3/2005 5:36:50 AM
"Their training reflect theirs tasks ." They training reflects their Role... "When was the last time the Regiment was involved in Jungle Ops ?" Well the last Public Source was Sierra Leone. Or is that to far in the past to count?
 
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Agammenon    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/3/2005 9:19:16 AM
The Masari Sharif uprising involved SBS troops not SAS.One of which won the congressional medal of honour.
 
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RM-Nod    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/3/2005 9:39:14 AM
Well one of the two, wasn't the MOH denied though for security reasons? The point is that the SAS and SBS have been doing a lot more than just intell work.
 
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Agammenon    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/3/2005 9:57:31 AM
George 2,himself,presented the medal. The SBS man never got nominated for the VC.
 
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TDHM    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/3/2005 11:45:42 AM
There is only one british Soldier which has been awarded the Medal of Honor. A Cookie to the person who gets the answer right. And I would like you to post a link or a source to were any British Soldier got a Medal of Honor...
 
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Sam    TDHM question to easy   2/3/2005 1:37:14 PM
The MOH has been awarded to 4 foreign soldiers. The Unknowns from England, France Italy and Rumania. They are also awarded to the US Unknowns at Arlington. Now Name the only female reciepient, or Father/sons or number of double reciepients.
 
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Agammenon    RE:Who has the more tougher Training: US Navy SEALS or British SAS?   2/4/2005 7:45:06 AM
Mabey it is'nt true about the SBS guy in Afganistan.But I have read about in quite a few places.Found this on another forum. America is to award the Congressional Medal of Honour, the equivalent of the Victoria Cross, to a British Special Boat Service (formerly Special Boat Squadron) commando who led the rescue of a CIA officer from an Afghan prison revolt. It will be the first time the medal has been awarded to a living foreigner. The Queen will have to give permission for the SBS soldier to wear it. The SBS senior NCO led a patrol of half-a-dozen SBS commandos who rescued a member of the CIA's special activities section from the fort at Qala-i-Jangi near Mazar-i-Sharif, last November. The fort was holding 500 al-Qa'eda and Taliban prisoners, many of whom had not been searched and were still armed. An exchange of fire developed into a full-scale revolt and two CIA officers who had been interrogating the prisoners were caught in the battle in which one was killed. The uprising went on for three days and the SBS commandos remained throughout, bringing down aerial fire to quell the revolt. The battle was one of the most contentious episodes in the war last year with human rights groups raising concerns over air strikes against prisoners, some of them unarmed. The eagerness of the Americans to recognise the courage of the NCO contrasts with suspicion within the regiment that two SAS soldiers being considered for VCs for an attack on the al-Qaeda cave complex will not get them.
 
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