How about this scenario? For everyone in favor of illegal immigration we will double your taxes. Conversely, for everyone against illegal immigration we will half your taxes. This way here, all you bleeding heart liberals can put your money where your mouth is and pay for what you believe in.

"For everyone in favor of illegal immigration we will double your taxes." Thats fine with me. I am not in favor of illegal immigration, I don't think you can point to anywhere where I've said that. I just don't think illegal immigration should warrant death either. Is that really such a hard thing to comprehend? I think its safe to say one can be against "illegal immigration" and "against using land mines on the US border" They are not mutually exclusive. My idea's on immigration are: 1) Make it easier for people to immigrate LEGALLY - so they do things like pay taxes and get held accountable to laws that effect every other citizen. 2) Crack down on those that hire "Illegal" immigrants and avoid taxes by paying under the table. 3) Using landmines and the military to try and solve a social issue is idiotic. How's that? I'm not sure where that is liberal at all. If you think it's a conservative view to blow up people crossing the border, I can think of a couple "political" parties that might fit that bill, but the Republican one isn't it.

"I think you understate the problem. California has the 5th largest economy in the World. Illegal immigration is actually bankrupting California." I think a lot of California's problems could be attributed to their last governor and the state politics.. Blaming all your problems on immigrants (illegal or otherwise) has often been a way of avoiding the "locals" responsibility. The comments some people have made here sound a whole lot like "auslander aus" to me.. or perhpaps "arbeit macht frei"..

1. To enter by force in order to conquer or pillage.
2. To encroach or intrude on; violate: "The principal of the trusts could not be invaded without trustee approval" (Barbara Goldsmith).
3. To overrun as if by invading; infest: "About 1917 the shipworm invaded the harbor of San Francisco" (Rachel Carson).
4. To enter and permeate, especially harmfully. "

I am sure we can agree that the illegals in the country, in large numbers, fulfill #2, #3, and most likely #4! So it is an invasion and Federal troops must be called to protect the States United from invasion of a foreign force. I believe that should just about do it for the legality issue. I say, BRING THEM ON, SECURE OUR BORDERS! If not, America is bankrupt and the government corrupted further.

Oh yeah, and restrict most abortion to fill the population gap that will appear. Sure, a lot of those babies will tend more towards becoming criminals because they're generally unwanted but immigrants also tend towards crime because of different cultures and the difficulties of integration and climbing the socio-economic ladder. And murder is wrong.

Basically what I'm saying here is you have a loooooong border and there are a lot of poor people around the world and its not about to change. People are going to get in for the forseeable future until strict measures are enacted... measures that are politically impossible because a majority of Americans feel sorry for the immigrants and don't have enough babies themselves.