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Subject: Russia: Sept. 2 victory over Japan day
maruben    7/26/2010 12:47:41 AM
Russia: Sept. 2 victory over Japan day MOSCOW (Kyodo) Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has signed into law a bill designating Sept. 2 as the anniversary of the end of World War II, effectively stipulating it as a day to commemorate the Soviet Union's victory over Japan, the presidential executive office said Sunday. The Russian move to designate a victory over Japan day could be seen as an attempt by the country to justify its effective control of four islands off Hokkaido seized by Soviet forces near the end of the war. Japan has demanded the return of the territories. Russia celebrates the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany on May 9 each year with a large-scale military parade in Moscow's Red Square. The law establishes a new commemoration day in Russia. Japan formally surrendered to the Allied Powers on Sept. 2, 1945, with a signing ceremony aboard the battleship USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay. Japan had lobbied against the law behind the scenes. The formal name of the new commemoration day under the law is "the anniversary of the end of World War II," toned down from the anniversary of victory over Japan. The Russian government could celebrate the anniversary on a large scale, mainly in the Far East, as this year marks the 65th anniversary of the end of the war. The upper house of the Russian legislature approved the bill July 14 after the lower house endorsed it July 8. With regard to the disputed islands, Japan maintains that Soviet forces occupied the territories from Aug. 29 to Sept. 5, 1945, after ignoring its nonaggression pact with Japan and declaring war on the country on Aug. 9, 1945. Sergei Mironov, chairman of Russia's Federation Council, or upper house, has meanwhile said it is a "historical fact" that the Soviet victory over Japan led to the end of World War II. Sakhalin, which governs the disputed islands, had long called on the state government to enact legislation to designate a day to commemorate the anniversary of the Soviet victory over Japan. The explanation of the bill said the Soviet military "liberated" the territories. A bill to designate the anniversary also cleared the lower and upper houses in 1998, but then President Boris Yeltsin vetoed the it in consideration of bilateral relations. The Japan Times: Monday, July 26, 2010 (C) All rights reserved
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Othon       8/16/2010 12:26:17 PM
"Soviet victory over Japan" - USSR signed non-aggression pacts with Germany and Japan. The latter was strictly abided by both sides until August 1945 when Soviet Union attacked Kwantung Army in Manchuria taken Japanese by surprise. Japan was effectively defeated by US at that time what was only reaffirmed by dropping two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Soviets simply took opportunity to grab some territories in Asia particularly those ceded to Japan after catastrophic Russo-Japanese War in 1905. Stalin also thought about invasion of Hokkaido to establish communist regime in part of Japanese Isles as he did in Korean Peninsula but was deterred by American show of force.

Now Kremlin wants to artificially create another Victory Day atop of this infamous Soviet adventure because supposedly 9th May is not enough to muster funny military parades gathering plenty of outdated gear.
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YelliChink       8/20/2010 11:25:20 AM
When Soviet red army crossed the border of Japanese-controlled Manchuria, so came the massive rape against Chinese women by Soviet soldiers.
The Emperor of Japan made a right decision back then that very few can envisage. Every other East Asia country with large commie stronghold post WW2 devolved into deadly civil wars. It is true that Americans defeated Japanese military, but it is the savageness of Soviet army that pushed Japanese Emperor to accept unconditional surrender. Actually, it was not-so unconditioned considering that Japanese would rather Americans occupying Japanese proper to prevent Chinese and Russian landing on their shores.
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JIMF       8/20/2010 5:12:53 PM
I read an article recently by a former Japanese defense minister from the Liberal Democratic Party saying that in the Japanese view WW2 ended when Japan accepted the terms of the Potsdam declaration, which was somewhere around August 10,   1945, not when the surrender document was signed on the Missouri (September 2).  Therefore, the Russians do not have a legal right to the occupied islands.  
She also pointed out that the dispute poisons the relationship between Japan and Russia, and prevents Japan from helping with the economic development of Siberia.  She also asserted that Russia and Japan should be united in confronting the greater threat represented by China's military and economic expansion.
It seems like the Russians have dug their heels in on this issue.  Does anyone know:
1. What if anything would it take for the Russians to negotiate
2. What is the economic value of the islands and/or surrounding waters
3. Has the U.S. taken a position on this issue
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