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Panther 9/8/2009 2:22:31 AM

What would happen if the United States ceased too exist 24 hours from now?

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Angry 9/8/2009 3:09:33 AM

They wouldn't be able to make another series of House.

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Le Zookeeper Top ten 9/8/2009 4:02:36 AM

What would happen if the United States ceased too exist 24 hours from now?

10) No Coca cola darn!
9) No Football errr wasn't it soccer?

8) KFC gone- whoops not good.

7) Do I have to fly Airbus??? Sh&t

6) Where do I move now? I have a big mouth.

5) Will the Hummer be gone too!

4) WHo will the world blame for global warming?

3) Did everyone fly out in the F-22?

2) How come I was left behind?

1) Who is the next American idol?

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WarNerd 9/8/2009 6:52:18 AM

Ugly.

World economy crashes. Governments are trying to find a ways to distract the population and resort to traditional methods, i.e. starting a war.

Iran invades Iraq.

China invades Taiwan.

India would probably attempt to clear the militia/terrorist bases and training facilities out of eastern Pakistan. Unless Pakistan uses nukes, in which case Pakistan will cease to exist.

North Korea attacks South Korea

Russia would try to expand westward to reacquire it's empire, using the threat of nuclear attack and a promise to leave

Germany alone to immobilize NATO.

Nuclear weapon proliferation goes into overdrive as weaker countries try to acquire a means of defense from larger neighbors.

Piracy becomes rampant. Some will even be government supported. Global trade collapses.

And it just gets worse from there on.

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ambush 9/8/2009 10:06:38 AM

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." Alexander Tyler

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Parmenion 9/8/2009 10:22:14 AM

The other EU members others than Britain would have to grow a pair and take up the slack. A unified European Army and Navy could probably keep the peace in the Atlanic and Med. Would Germany do a deal? No because Britain and France and many other nations would need their gas secured more than ever and would pressure all of Europe to present a strong front. The Russians would not invade a unified nuclear power with a larger and better equipped military than them which is what Europe essentially would be within 48 hours of this happening. Russia might actually look to Europe for an alliance in the face of a resurgent Iran and China.

Turkey would ally with the EU or Russia probably. Also Iran might attack Israel after Iraq.

Canada and Australia would have to go into a wartime spending mindset.

Asia is f*cked. South Korea can probably take the north but if China wants Taiwan will Japan intervene? Would it help?

Japan will start developing nuclear weapons and increase their military spending greatly- although without America every nation will be able to spend less.

Within 100 years humanity would be back on track. But it would be a bumpy ride.

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lurker resurgent China? 9/8/2009 12:46:29 PM

Parmenion- China would have just lost a good part of their economy. I can't see them doing anything but falling into civil turmoil with hundreds of millions out of a job.

Iran would either tone down real quick or face nuclear annihilation from Israel.

EU could become senior partner in a EU-Russia alliance because of a unified military and nuclear structure, but they could also become junior partner with their dependency on Russian gas.

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Parmenion 9/8/2009 1:33:53 PM

Parmenion- China would have just lost a good part of their economy. I can't see them doing anything but falling into civil turmoil with hundreds of millions out of a job.

Iran would either tone down real quick or face nuclear annihilation from Israel.

EU could become senior partner in a EU-Russia alliance because of a unified military and nuclear structure, but they could also become junior partner with their dependency on Russian gas.

Fair points.

I think something as huge and impossible as this scenario is pretty hard to predict. China would have a massive hole in their economy- but they're commmunist- they have no problems with letting a quarter of their people starve while fighting a big war. Look at Stalin or Mao. Siberia and Taiwan would be targets.

Russia has the capacity to destroy the EU with nukes, and vice versa. The EU has the technology, large population and strong economy (the strongest left in the world in this scenario) that Russia lack, not to mention stronger conventional forces. Russia has the gas that the EU lacks- but the EU can ration supply and build nulcear power stations. Ultimately Russia needs the EU more.

Iran would face nulcear annhialation but they might still be crazy enough to attack anyway.

Silly scenario anyway.

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lurker 9/8/2009 1:49:58 PM

Parmenion- China would have just lost a good part of their economy. I can't see them doing anything but falling into civil turmoil with hundreds of millions out of a job.

Iran would either tone down real quick or face nuclear annihilation from Israel.

EU could become senior partner in a EU-Russia alliance because of a unified military and nuclear structure, but they could also become junior partner with their dependency on Russian gas.

Fair points.

Iran would face nulcear annhialation but they might still be crazy enough to attack anyway.

Silly scenario anyway.

While the communists in power would be fine with it, I truly wonder whether such starvation, would spell a time of civil war or not.

true you can never tell with Amhed.

Good point on Russia

and yes a silly scenario ;)

fun to speculate on though.

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Parmenion 9/8/2009 3:38:42 PM

Parmenion- China would have just lost a good part of their economy. I can't see them doing anything but falling into civil turmoil with hundreds of millions out of a job.

Iran would either tone down real quick or face nuclear annihilation from Israel.

EU could become senior partner in a EU-Russia alliance because of a unified military and nuclear structure, but they could also become junior partner with their dependency on Russian gas.

Fair points.

Iran would face nulcear annhialation but they might still be crazy enough to attack anyway.

Silly scenario anyway.

While the communists in power would be fine with it, I truly wonder whether such starvation, would spell a time of civil war or not.

true you can never tell with Amhed.

Good point on Russia

and yes a silly scenario ;)

fun to speculate on though.

I actually hope you're right on China. The Han chinese people have to stand up eventually or the state might collapse from lack of water before it can become democratic. (This is in the real world not the silly one). But the pessimistic grumpy part of me has his doubts...

It's fun to be silly sometimes I guess : )

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FJV Yawn 9/8/2009 4:33:04 PM

The Fundamentalists state "Allah has answered our prayers" and we have the next religious / genocidal world war.

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