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Subject: Impact on US military deployment capabilities after US dollar collapse
Le Zookeeper    8/3/2009 3:37:37 AM
WHat if the rumors of an October devaluation of US dollar come true? How will it affect the combat ability of US military as far as global capabilities go.. I am not an expert here, but besides nuclear crafts everything will be a major expense, perhaps F-22s would be better of sold!!! I bet nobody knows.
 
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Beazz       8/16/2009 5:19:45 PM
Le Zookeeper    Beazz clarifications   8/16/2009 2:48:06 PM
oil needs to be refined and distributed. If militias take control, it won't happen. If its in Okla we will really need military , I hate to see the Bible belt in control here. Its not just an isolated assassination, but coupled with sudden collapse of dollar and social services. Some of the senior citizens here told me at least in GD1 they could grow potatoes in backyard some family support, etc etc. They told me if it happens again it will be crazy as there will be no food to eat very quickly. ANd oh yes gunboat diplomacy for money has been used(by number of countries of course) but primarily driven by politicos not military leaders. It would be interesting to see how the military would behave if say Swine flu, depression, devaluation, and social unrest + an assassination, and a pay cut happenes at the same time- the perfect storm.
 
If militias are in control of America, that means the entire US active military and National Guard has been somehow completely neutralized. If we ever get to that point is is literally going to be like that show Jericho and every city will be on their own. What you suggest is literally one knotch above what will we do when the Marshians invade.!! It's like you sat down and passed out papers to 100 people and said ok.. tell me everything you think could go wrong in America to casue a government collaspe and then took them all and compiled them together and now this is what is heading our way. Pure nonsense of the umphhhh degree.
 
And if it was that bad, I'd prefer the *Bible belt* be in control as opposed to some other. Let me guess, you would prefer some Islamic group be in control? BTW, the *Perfect Storm* was a movie. As in fiction.
 
You again show your total lack of understanding of American society in general. Arab nations would no doubt react the way you suggest. However,  the US military will not be taking over the nation because things get tuff and they got a pay cut. They would by-n-large follow orders and do their job and assist their nation where their own family lives to recover and get back to a good life. Not act like a bunch of thugs and compound the problem!! This is where they live, their friends and family live, everyone they know. They will not help ruin it Mr Naturalized citizen. Some things they just can't instill in or teach you when they say whatever it is they say to you that somehow makes you think your an American.
 
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Beazz       8/16/2009 5:21:58 PM

Beazz is correct in assessment of SPR. Also that place in OK is Cushing, OK. Not sure if SPR is fully stocked at the moment though and remember it is only crude oil. It still has to be refined into gasoline and distributed.

 

While I don't believe in the dooms day predictions, Le Zookeeper has a point on social order. We all watched New Orleans decend into chaos after only a couple of days without food and electricity. If something on a larger scale happened..... I shudder to think.


SPR has I am pretty sure a 1 billion barrel capacity so its not full. Zooman is most likely a Muslem anti-American is all and he just keeps suggesting what he actually hopes will happen.
 
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Le Zookeeper    Beazz   8/16/2009 6:29:07 PM
I am not Moslem or anti-American by any means, I evenunfortunately  voted once for Bush jr. I suggest you pursue other avenues of venting ur frustration. After Katrina social disorder was quick and rampant. SO thats a clear example of the status of self control we have as a nation, not to speak of this greed spending binge on live TV worldwide. I needn't be labelled anti- anything , since Iraq 2003 American behaviour is apparent on TV worldwide and its not good. Petty patriotism and jingoism aside. And its not me, its even the respected "deep entrenched Americans of several generations down" say the same things. But then I have hope that the people will change under good leadership like Obama.http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emsmiled.gif" align="absMiddle" border="0" alt="" /> You need to chill- Disagreeing with civility is the American way, in case you forgot.
 
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Beazz       8/16/2009 7:11:20 PM
Le Zookeeper    Beazz   8/16/2009 6:29:07 PM
I am not Moslem or anti-American by any means, I evenunfortunately  voted once for Bush jr. I suggest you pursue other avenues of venting ur frustration. After Katrina social disorder was quick and rampant. SO thats a clear example of the status of self control we have as a nation, not to speak of this greed spending binge on live TV worldwide. I needn't be labelled anti- anything , since Iraq 2003 American behaviour is apparent on TV worldwide and its not good. Petty patriotism and jingoism aside. And its not me, its even the respected "deep entrenched Americans of several generations down" say the same things. But then I have hope that the people will change under good leadership like Obama.http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emsmiled.gif" /> You need to chill- Disagreeing with civility is the American way, in case you forgot.
 
You are clearly anti-American and no, it's not my duty as an American to sit and listen to your dribble and debate you as if your were some American concerned about his country. You clearly are neither. Again, a piece of paper stating your legal status is simply that. That is not even close to what being an American is. Being American doesn't come on a pice of paper and most Americans don't consider their patriotism *petty* nor do they subscribe to that jingoism accusation if they don't apoligyze to the world for existing. Pure left wing radical BS of which I do not subscribe so save it for someone who cares. I don't base my countrys behavior or actions on what nations of socialist Europe or the mid east think. Get out away from nut job factorys like San Fran and you might find out main stream Americans are not running a popularity contest with foreign nations. Only Hussein is doint that and its FAILING in case ya hadnt noticed! 
 
Only people like you that are not true Americans try and come at real Americans with that non-sense angle of useing our civility and very laws against us. The only fools that fall for that load of BS are the ones fooled by that fool Barak HUSSEIN Obama. Maybe you should turn on that TV away from MSNBC and see what is really going on with that fool. He is dropping in the poles every single pole and the reason is even the Americans he fooled into voting for him are beginning to realize they screwed up and he is going to destroy the nation if we don't all sit up and take notice and not allow him.
 
I am still laughing though at the claim of Hussein being a leader !! He's the laughing stock of the world and causeing the same to be brought upon America. That clown has got not one damn thing from any leader in any country except a stick in the eye and a now run along home lil soup kitchen organizer and don't call us, we'll call you.
 
Answer my question.Where are you from?????????????? and why are you talking all around the question and not answering it????? And why are you taking your laptop out to internet cafes to post on? Most Americnas when they leave home, leave their computers there. So are you hiding something or is your life so pathetic that you can't even leave home without taking a PC with you? I'd suggest you get a life, preferably back where you came from.
 
Beazz
 
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xylene    Naturalized US Citizens are Citizens   8/17/2009 12:42:19 AM
Le Zookeeper, if you are a naturalized US Citizen then that is a good thing and nothing to be ashamed of. You made a choice to become American which is admirable since most Americans are citizens by birth and won the lottery being born here instead of Myanmar or Mali.
 
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Le Zookeeper    Thank you Xylene   8/17/2009 12:58:55 AM

Le Zookeeper, if you are a naturalized US Citizen then that is a good thing and nothing to be ashamed of. You made a choice to become American which is admirable since most Americans are citizens by birth and won the lottery being born here instead of Myanmar or Mali.


I have always had a deep respect for the Founding Fathers and their vision of America & the Bill of Rights. Beazz needs to chill. I guess  I am brutally honest sometimes hehe. Yes I got my Greencard and then citizenship after sholastic acheivements and obviously good citizenship- though financial success is making my good citizenship flounder a bit, its always party time now. And now if Beazz votes democrat there will be peace in the republic. Thats all you need to do Beazz punch that Democrat candidates name. We win!!!
 
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Beazz       8/17/2009 2:26:05 PM
Le Zookeeper    Thank you Xylene   8/17/2009 12:58:55 AM

 
Le Zookeeper, if you are a naturalized US Citizen then that is a good thing and nothing to be ashamed of. You made a choice to become American which is admirable since most Americans are citizens by birth and won the lottery being born here instead of Myanmar or Mali.


I have always had a deep respect for the Founding Fathers and their vision of America & the Bill of Rights. Beazz needs to chill. I guess  I am brutally honest sometimes hehe. Yes I got my Greencard and then citizenship after sholastic acheivements and obviously good citizenship- though financial success is making my good citizenship flounder a bit, its always party time now. And now if Beazz votes democrat there will be peace in the republic. Thats all you need to do Beazz punch that Democrat candidates name. We win!!!
Soory zooman, I am not as naieve as Xylene. He is correct in his opinion of some people becoming Americans and becoming great Americans. You do not fall into that category. Anyone with their eyes open know full well there are far to many of your type that become citizens simply to work against the American way of life. Don't flatter your self with your *honesty* nonsense. I am not the least bit fooled. Good citizenship is not required for that nonsense and we all know it. All thats required is you don't get caught associationg with your most likely terrorists pals from the mid east. That is the only reason you would not just say where you are from. You're from some 3rd world dirt hole and now you think America has been waiting all this time for your dumb ass to come here and set us straight!! lol The mindset of you 3rd worlders never ceases to amaze me. Your countrys are nothing but sewer holes of the world that you spend your entire life trying to get out of and then we let you in here and now you think you can tell us how to do it right? Yea, yall been so succesful at the running of your own countrys, right? Sorry, no thanks. Keep your ideas and better yet, take them back to the sewer pit you came from and implement them there. You're not wanted here.
 
You still refuse to say where you are from. You still refuse to give an explanation as to why anyone in this nation would take their stupid laptop out with them. Party time my back side. You're so busy partying that you have to tote a laptop around to outside free internet services? yea right. You got a bridge to sell me to I suppose? Big party life taking youir laptop out to free interent service areas all alone? lol Yea I'm buying that one. You're simply a pathetic loser and it is becoming more obvious why you are so concerened about things like guns and militias in this country. I would be to if I were you. You can bet if this total collaspe you keep ranting on were to happen, those militias would make short order of the types like you.
 
I'll ask agin... WHER ARE YOU FROM??
 
BTW, I voted Democrat till the last election. I will never vote for a fool like Hussein. Thankfully his stupidity is going to in the end be the best thing ever happened to the Republican party and this nation. The Dems will no doubt lose the super majority in the senate in the 2010 elections and numbers in the house and by the 2012 presidential elections will take back the White House and possibly the senate as well. At any rate, the outrageous numbers advantage the Dems enjoy will be over in 15 months smart guy. IOW, Hussein is destroying the Democratic party better the the Repubs could ever dream of. Stick that in your party pipe and smoke on it a while chump.
 
Beazz
 
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Le Zookeeper    I'll ask agin... WHER ARE YOU FROM??    8/21/2009 3:21:03 AM
TEXAS
 
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Le Zookeeper    Ohh Beazz u mean Point of origin   8/21/2009 3:25:33 AM

TEXAS


Frankly I forgot. In the USA since 1981 if I remembered where I was from .....it would be surprising wouldn't it! But my Saga here began in Texas - and oh South and West Texas cowboy and 2 step country. Howdy!! I have my Stetson hat with me till today!!
 
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Beazz       8/21/2009 6:07:51 PM



TEXAS






Frankly I forgot. In the USA since 1981 if I remembered where I was from .....it would be surprising wouldn't it! But my Saga here began in Texas - and oh South and West Texas cowboy and 2 step country. Howdy!! I have my Stetson hat with me till today!!

What an outright load of crap you useless liar. What would be surprising is an adult that does NOT know where they are from. Of course, we both know full well you know but simply don't wish to put it up here for all to see. You're a waste of time and nothing but a 2 bit phony loser that needs to go back where you came from. Take Hussein with you!!
Beazz
 
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