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Subject: Solving problems
french stratege    6/22/2009 9:11:12 PM
According to french newspaper Liberation and a well know commentator about french military, France would have avenged the death of 11 french engineers and technicians in Karachi Pakistan (working of the SSK Agosta contract ) by sending a commando who would have killed a Pakistanese general and broken the legs of 3 Admirals in retaliation. Indeed it is said that the bombing of french was done (using manipulated islamic groups) because some problem with briberies about the contracts. h*tp://www.liberation.fr/societe/0101575137-la-vengeance-clandestine-de-la-dgse
 
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Godofgamblers       6/25/2009 2:15:10 AM
Also GOG I doubt if the French military sent a guy to kill one of the senior military leaders of one country and break the legs of three others we will ever definitively know whether or not it actually happened. Not that it wouldn't be great if we could.
 
Maybe I am taking things too literally.... so i wonder what was done....? 
 
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Necromancer    Its entirely possible   6/25/2009 2:34:13 AM
Chirac stop some commission payments to Pakistanis when he defeated Baldour and Sarkozy was campaign fund manager. There is a motive & Sarkozy is now PM, question is what is French procedure, law and who ordered it. Did Sarkozy order it or allow it? Maybe FS knows correct procedure.
 
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usajoe1    Herald    6/25/2009 2:34:50 AM
The link was broken.
 
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Herald12345       6/25/2009 2:59:15 AM




The one percenter is that one percent of the population of ANY nation who are absolute moral scum. Some of these scum always manage to place themseoves into positions of influence and power. Some American examples are Chris Dodd, Robert Gates, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, John Boener, John Tower, Henry Kissinger, Tom Delay, Orin Hatch, etc.


 



I think you are being a little harsh on Clinton, no? he is not one of my favorite presidents but moral scum? can you explain why you have this view.






Broken link fixed.
 

That is why.

 

Herald


Just  as Mary Joe Kopeckne is the unprosecuted crime that marks Ted Kennedy, so Juanita Broderick is the alleged rape victim who us the reason that I loathe the confessed liar , Bill Clinton.
 
Then there is Loral and other matters.
 
Some might allege that is treason.
 
Herald
 
 
 
 
 
 
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usajoe1       6/25/2009 3:52:34 AM
I did not like much of his policies, especially his foreign policy. Now as far as the rape thing is concernded, that has not been proven. If you are going to hammer him for cheating on his wife, then you should also include JFK and maybe 80% of the US presidents in history. The only difference between them and Clinton is they were not stupid enough to get caught.
 
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Herald12345    There os this bozo named Mark Sanford........   6/25/2009 4:16:58 AM
If you do not respect the dignity and rights of a fellow Human being, or keep your word, and if ypi asre about nothing but what benefits your short term selfish personal advantage without allowing for the future consequences to others of the act you did, what makes you moral?
 
Herald
 
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gf0012-aust       6/25/2009 8:40:51 AM
Again whose TECH goes into the S-80?

well, it's not that often that FS and I agree on these issues - but he is right with respect to the modified Agostas,  There was some substantial french technology that went into the modified Agostas (and some from a couple of other countries trading under a frencgh company).  I'd put a modified Agosta up against a Kilo anyday.  Pakistani submariners are no slouches either.

it has been running around the shop a few years ago that the french did engage in some early payback with some liberal support from the DGSE. 


 
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french stratege       6/25/2009 9:11:38 AM
A gentle payback as Pakistan is a customer and a friend.
Broking a leg is a warning.
For ennemies, the bill is more 10 killed ennemies for a french killed.
 
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gf0012-aust       6/25/2009 9:24:34 AM

A gentle payback as Pakistan is a customer and a friend.
IIRC, one of Pakistans Admirals (submarines) was french born......
 
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