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Necromancer    2/14/2009 7:36:18 PM
Both are economically in the same boat vis-a-vis the vaunted West. As the saying goes- politics make strange bedfellows, and economics even stranger.
 
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Necromancer    A Rudyard Kipling quote   2/14/2009 7:38:51 PM

Both are economically in the same boat vis-a-vis the vaunted West.
As the saying goes- politics make strange bedfellows, and economics even stranger.
 
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gf0012-aust       2/15/2009 12:30:56 AM

Both are economically in the same boat vis-a-vis the vaunted West.
are you completely incapable of making any comment that isn't laced with trollish invective?
are you completely oblivious of the history of these two nations?
are you even remotely aware of what the financial meltdown actually does mean for china?

make the effort to at least not appear to be a troll even if you aren't - it is tiresome to say the least. 
 
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Necromancer    gf   2/15/2009 3:42:16 PM
Are you somewhere in the outback- the story of the year 2008/2009 is the end of the US dollar and possible bankruptcy- sure China will suffer- obviously nobody is there to buy its washing machines today- but tommorrow he Chinese will buy their own stuff. FYI for the first time in history month to month car sales of China exceeded US sales. Did you know that the billions paid to bailout the banks ended up 90% or so in some cases as bonuses in the bank executives pockets. Nobody got arrested in the whole Wall street scam - because they are so tied in with the government- in China the CEOs disappear or get executed, now least we can hope for is some serious prosecution - that too has not happened. The stark reality is the US with UK and the so called Western banking system is a criminal enterprise with support from US & UK government- sooner or later China and Japan are gonna say screw u- give me money back in gold or land say Hawaii on Dec 7th 2050- they will need a military alliance to get it bak, maybe Japan will give technology to China to upgrade its military, you think that cannot happn? LOL? U r so full of it that u do not see the criminality and collusion of big money and Western governments- we thought Soviets and Al Qaida and Iran were gonna be the 21st century villians- u never thought it would be u. But then that is self delusion.
 
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Necromancer    gf- from a better source than me-   2/15/2009 3:46:26 PM

INTERPRETATION: SHOCK WAVES COMING

The rise in the gold price during a US$ counter-trend rally foretells of a strong message. THE GOLD PRICE IS HEADING TOWARD NEW HIGHS. ALSO, THE USDOLLAR IS SOON TO EXPERIENCE SHOCK WAVES. Patience for gold & silver investors will be greatly rewarded. Numerous stories support this claim. Heavy reliance upon the printing press, as in monetization of USTreasury Bonds, is the biggest immediate threat to paper money, and the biggest immediate positive prospect for gold. The USFed has already announced this new policy, as they will purchase USTreasurys from expanded money supply. Any reluctance by foreign creditors to participate in auctions (see the Hat Trick Letter proprietary reports) will exacerbate the movement. Then there is the planned launch of the new Persian Gulf gold-backed currency in early 2010, which should act as a nuclear bomb against the USDollar in less than one year. That is the hidden motive for unprecedented attack of hedge fund crude oil positions by the sponsored Wall Street gangster bankers, aka banksters. That label is well deserved. Their crimes and protection given by USGovt authorities has been clear for the entire world to see. It has been revealed in plain view. Anyone who denies the criminal element in Wall Street, tied with ropes five feet thick to the USGovt ministries, is hopelessly blind at best, and compromisingly moronic at worst.
 
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And these folks are pretty mainstream-- so Japan China alliance is surely possible since they will want their moneyback not just paper. Lets get back to that military possibility.
 
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gf0012-aust       2/15/2009 4:06:10 PM
stop breathing valuable oxygen you troll.

you 're a known bomb thrower and repeatedly have been shown to be nothing but a racist bomb thrower.

stop wasting bandwidth and peoples time. 
 
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Necromancer    Sysops - complaint agains gf   2/15/2009 4:09:47 PM

stop breathing valuable oxygen you troll.




you 're a known bomb thrower and repeatedly have been shown to be nothing but a racist bomb thrower.




stop wasting bandwidth and peoples time. 
I gave very credible responses to a very relevat issue with backup- gf typically has accused people of being racists blah blah- Now I am neither Japanese and Chinese so what thf%ck is this senile alcoholic moron talking about. I shall restrain myself out of decency which he lacks. Please request him to stop trolling and ruining my threads.

 
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gf0012-aust       2/16/2009 12:28:57 AM
I have yet to see any post of yours not involve some veiled racist attack on the west.

you are an incoherent troll - and your behaviour has been self evident for all to see over some time.

btw muppet - I don't drink.  I am sick to death of morons like you pretending to be pseudo subject matter experts when all you do is wade into a room, chuck a grenade and go swanning off into the sunset again.

a number of times when you are proved to be subject matter poor you skulk off and don't even bother to come back.

go back to school and get an education - and while you're at it make an effort to be a decent human being.  you add nothing of value, and you know bugger all about china (let alone japan) - so the thrust of your whole thread is based on a need to get attention.  Well, you've got it, you are confirmed troll and bandwidth waster.

If you even made the smallest attempt to engage as an adult then you'd be accorded some degree of civlity - you however don't deserve it though as your mode of enagement is persistent and transparent.  You continually  trot out these inane scenarios as a form of pseudo intellectual self gratification.

BTW, SYSOPS has banned your alter ego in the past - so you already have form.  Instead of appealing for SYSOP intervention, how about growing up first, then develop an education, and finally, do some proper research  rather than making wild assumptions and extrapolating those into a vehicle of opportunity to promote your own bigotry.  SYSOP is more than able to take me to task if I have stepped over the line.  As I said, your colours are already hoisted.


 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       2/16/2009 12:29:49 AM




stop breathing valuable oxygen you troll.

you 're a known bomb thrower and repeatedly have been shown to be nothing but a racist bomb thrower.

stop wasting bandwidth and peoples time. 


I gave very credible responses to a very relevat issue with backup- gf typically has accused people of being racists blah blah- Now I am neither Japanese and Chinese so what thf%ck is this senile alcoholic moron talking about. I shall restrain myself out of decency which he lacks. Please request him to stop trolling and ruining my threads.





gf is not accusing of you of being a racist (especially since he is half Chinese).  If you are not Chinese then you are a panda licking expat or have a business that is solely or nearly solely reliant on China for business.  And you deal enough in that realm to know to pull out the "racist" card when ever some makes negative comments about Bad China.
 
China will never accept Japan as an equal and would only embrace it to conquer the lands and punish the people for WW2 and Japan knows this.  Too bad the Koreans are too stubborn and the Japanese too proud to put aside their differences to contain China.
 
And if the dollar is wrecked, China and Europe come with us, so who will buy that Arab oil, which is also running low?  The US is slowly opening up vast reserves of gas and is waiting for the end of Arab oil to seriously tap the reserves in the midwest and Canada.
 
I see Japan and India having a much tighter alliance and India becoming a major customer of Japanese super technology.
 
 
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strat-T21C       2/16/2009 12:40:32 AM










stop breathing valuable oxygen you troll.



you 're a known bomb thrower and repeatedly have been shown to be nothing but a racist bomb thrower.



stop wasting bandwidth and peoples time. 






I gave very credible responses to a very relevat issue with backup- gf typically has accused people of being racists blah blah- Now I am neither Japanese and Chinese so what thf%ck is this senile alcoholic moron talking about. I shall restrain myself out of decency which he lacks. Please request him to stop trolling and ruining my threads.












gf is not accusing of you of being a racist (especially since he is half Chinese).  If you are not Chinese then you are a panda licking expat or have a business that is solely or nearly solely reliant on China for business.  And you deal enough in that realm to know to pull out the "racist" card when ever some makes negative comments about Bad China.

 

China will never accept Japan as an equal and would only embrace it to conquer the lands and punish the people for WW2 and Japan knows this.  Too bad the Koreans are too stubborn and the Japanese too proud to put aside their differences to contain China.


 

And if the dollar is wrecked, China and Europe come with us, so who will buy that Arab oil, which is also running low?  The US is slowly opening up vast reserves of gas and is waiting for the end of Arab oil to seriously tap the reserves in the midwest and Canada.


 

I see Japan and India having a much tighter alliance and India becoming a major customer of Japanese super technology.


 
I agree with that last statment. The Indians and Japan if only to put the brakes on PRC. Espesially if they can get somr tech to boot.

 
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Necromancer    Nannu please    2/16/2009 12:43:57 AM
this is a theory - I have no affiliation with China, but the fact remains they have cash - I usually do no understand gfs diatrabes since Australia's future is China resource sales. Besides ur phrase about panda licking shocks me- I mean Bush, Kevin Rudd
more aptly fill that description. They were olympic spectators. Anyways ......besides whats laughable that oth Drop an gf
had no clue about Russian population decline until Roman corrected them. They remind me of the 2 od muppets. Its undeniable China is the future hope for US and its next back buddy- both Japan and China will have strong convergegence of interests i n ensuring that US pays up its bonds- now will they finance U deficits without further guarantees(say Hawaii and California as collateral)-probably not.ANd hence the military alliance, both Japan and China support Iran for example. I see this as a distinct possibility.
 
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