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Subject: Why all the hostilities towards China?
analdestroyer    1/19/2009 12:29:29 AM
I sometimes wonder why all the hostilities towards china in this forum?, i even read that someone suggested the US to send B2 to wreck chinese three gorges dam? where all of this come from, is it from jealousy?, certaintly not as you americans has been living so well off, is it because dare i say 'fear' as the chinese are rapidly catching up on you, certainly this is exagerrating, no matter how fast the chinese are growing its still decades away to be on the same footing as the US, or is it because they are different? different in their way of doing things that you guys are so worked up, different yet produces the same or arguably better results, for example china is not democracy so it must be evil, yes china is not democracy nor it needed to be at the moment, but its heading that way, for democracy to work first the state must achieve stability and to achieve stability means continuing economic growth, after all democray is where the people become more affluent and so they demand more say on how goverments run things, remember democray does not make western countries rich, they become rich because of colonization (mercantilism) and industrialization (which is what the chinese are doing), secondly your mantra of free market capitalism over state controlled economy, you seems to think that the state is naturally idiot and the market is naturally brilliant, guess again it was an epic mistake, it is you who now moving toward state control—by nationalizing the banking and car industries, and imposing heavy new regulation on the financial industry, accusing them of yuan depreciation while ignoring the fact that is has been increasing by 21.5% towards the dollars, the chinese are a nation of learners they learn from others success and mistakes, they want to avoid the fate of russia in 90's moving too fast from socialism economy to free market and democracy, you americans called it shock therapy which proves to be all shock and no therapy, and you might be suprised that 8 out of 9 of its top leaderships is engineers instead of attorneys and lawyers like in the US you should read this article on newsweek http://www.newsweek.com/id/178810/page/1 its quite rare US media potrays China in positive light
 
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Godofgamblers       1/20/2009 6:15:09 AM
I thought this poster had been banned for spamming these boards and/or for posting obscene photos. I'll have to check in the archives, but i don't think i'm wrong.
 
 
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Softwar    Nazi   1/20/2009 8:45:19 AM



















Its advocates are people with names like "analdestroyer" who cannot, among other things, use the Return or Enter key, like















 















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 Well sorry for not using enough enter key, its a habit im working to change, the name analdestroyer means exactly what is written, thats what i do  







 





























Dude - first get a new handle.






Second, if you want to know why many of us oppose China - do some basic research about the Laogai camps and why the CCP continues to use a concentration camp system.



 



Finally, your assumption that China "will become democratic" one day has yet to come true even after 2000 years.  The engagement crowd has stated over and over again that continued trade will make China become more democratic and less hostile.  Neither have taken place despite nearly 20 years of the same policy out of DC.



 







 






Well they gonna take as much time as they want, this is their own country only them knows what works and what doesn't whatever their system is, is suitable to china, and they are not gonna bow to outside pressure to democratize overnight, their leaders is engineeers which is highly process-oriented and obsessed with performance metrics trained to build from a plan

I can't think of a better situation than to have engineers running the government as opposed to attorneys. It is the same as having scientists rather than idealists running the country. I am convinced that the chief flaw of the US last executive administration was its idealism and the destruction it wrought to foreign policy, budget , trade deficit and the economy.


First - I see you did not respond the the laogai facts.  Of course, ru
 
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analdestroyer       1/20/2009 7:04:01 PM

Engineers?

 

Hu Jintao, the butcher of Tibet is an engineer? Oh yeah he worked on irrigation systems while he was a young communist punk in Gansu province. He soon found a patron and went beyond that.drudge work. *In the `1980s he went to the Central Party School to become a CCP party hack. Over here we would call him after such training a !@#$%^&*() :LAWYER or more correctly a mandarin functionary.Ip the traditoopnl tiocket punching route with the Communist Youth l;eague .Made political c0nnedctions with Song Ping and aligned himself into the personal circle of the national economic criminal, Deng Xao Peng.

 

Hu became the party functionary in charge of Tibet after the previous party provincial secretary died of "high altitude sickness" (he was probably ":removed".to get him out of the way because of the mess he stirred  up that resulted in a province wode outbreak of rioting.).


 

What was Hu's furst act?





How about the extremely convenient DEATH of the Panchan Lama?


 

And then there was the martial law order, mass arrests and state sanctioned murders which immediately followed.that convenient death.


 

There's more, you PRC. Civilized? You are hardly in any position to use the term or complain about it; BANDIT.

 

Herald


 


 

As i said in my post its 8 out of 9 top party leaders are engineers according to newsweek, not its president, and they are also the top leaderships in China, which also happen to be hu jintao top advisers,
Chinese human right records yes its bad and definetely need working on, but isn't it the case for most of major developing nations in the world?, why china its the only one in the spotlights, like the gujarat muslim massacre in india, which pretty much sanctioned by the local government,  the indian instution of caste is another example of gross human right violations, in which lower caste people is still called the untouchables, and did very menial and polluting work related to bodily decay and dirt, indonesia is another example of a country with a disgraful human right records, and religion violence, and your country itself is in disgrace forever by allowing torture for POWs
 
 
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analdestroyer       1/20/2009 7:11:27 PM










You destroy anuses?  You destroy anally?  You are a gay rapist?  A porn star?  We're absolutely lost here.





Well maybe i am, but isn't that you are a country that respect all type of human?, so why it should be a problem if i am gay, can't speak english well, or a porn star, or you have a doubt about your own sexual preferences?,  the main point is my topic that i posted and so far i haven't received any civilised answer or intelligent one, which proves my point that most of you suffer from superiority complex,

 

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C'mon buttpirate, we're just doing it for the lulz.  It's pure funny.  You can be gay, we don't mind.  However, though we might not discriminate against you for problems with English skills, their lack does make you harder to understand.  In the long run, you will earn that at least some of these remarks are meant to be helpful.


 

 

Really, I don't want to reread what you wrote, it hurts my eyes.  Retype it, using paragraphs - do you understand the rules of paragraphs?  Basically every time you change your flow of thought; typically three to five sentences per paragraph, though this can vary greatly.  So retype it like I said, then I will answer you.   OK?


 

 

 


 
Well i cant see nothing wrong with my post, except for its lack of paragraph in which i apologize, however other poster here can read it well, and even reply to it intelligently, if you can,t read it or too lazy to read it, then its your problem and you are free to piss off from this thread.
 
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analdestroyer       1/20/2009 7:26:24 PM







































Its advocates are people with names like "analdestroyer" who cannot, among other things, use the Return or Enter key, like































 































this































































to make paragraphs.





















































































 































so it is much harder to read what they write.














































































 Well sorry for not using enough enter key, its a habit im working to change, the name analdestroyer means exactly what is written, thats what i do  















 

























 
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analdestroyer       1/20/2009 7:37:15 PM

I thought this poster had been banned for spamming these boards and/or for posting obscene photos. I'll have to check in the archives, but i don't think i'm wrong.

 



I have never posted obscene photos in this forum or spamming as i recall, in fact this is maybe my third time posting thread in this forum if im not mistaken, you people are so low for resorting to this against me, I have been to many forums and i never met more disgraceful people than in this forum, flaming me in this forum i still can accept, but accusing me of posting nasty pictures are just low and downright idiotic behaviour
 
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warpig       1/20/2009 7:51:18 PM




I thought this poster had been banned for spamming these boards and/or for posting obscene photos. I'll have to check in the archives, but i don't think i'm wrong.



 








I have never posted obscene photos in this forum or spamming as i recall, in fact this is maybe my third time posting thread in this forum if im not mistaken, you people are so low for resorting to this against me, I have been to many forums and i never met more disgraceful people than in this forum, flaming me in this forum i still can accept, but accusing me of posting nasty pictures are just low and downright idiotic behaviour


 
I don't think it's anything personal.  It's just that many of us who've been here several years are used to seeing some Chinese troll pop up every month or two, act like a total ass, and then get banned from the site.  It may be that some of us actually enjoy ripping into them.  I'd say there hasn't really been one for a while and we seemed overdue for another.  Then a few obviously Chinese posters appeared in the last month, including you and Parmenion, and I guess it's like red meat in front of some hungry lions.
 
 
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Nichevo       1/20/2009 8:24:27 PM
You agree, Parm is another?  I thought so. 
 
Anal:
 
your country itself is in disgrace forever by allowing torture for POWs
 
MMMmuuuahahahahahahahahhahahha!  In China, we would be in disgrace for being amateurs at torture.  The Chinese are certainly the all-time experts at torture.  Everybody in the world knows this.  What a hypocrite!  C'mon, show us how it's done.  HAHAHAHAHA  LOL ROFL LMAO LTIWMP IGDL Hahahahaaha!
 
 
About the rest of that little think piece , go look up some Latin:  Tu quoque. 
 
 
Well i cant see nothing wrong with my post, except for its lack of paragraph in which i apologize, however other poster here can read it well, and even reply to it intelligently, if you can,t read it or too lazy to read it, then its your problem and you are free to piss off from this thread.
 
 
I'm free to do anything I want, Crisco cowboy.  Even to stay here and mock you senselessly if I get bored.  Would you like me to correct the grammar of your paragraph above?
 
Of course I could read it if I wanted to take the trouble.  Four words:   YOU'RE NOT WORTH IT.
 
 
 
Again, you can not understand China's society from your western developed world perspective. 
 
It's the other way around.  You cannot understand Western society from your Chinese developed world perspective.  This is literally true, seeing that you think that all our biggest mistakes are the things you should be learning from.
 
You're going to be pretty much a play toy around here till you demonstrate that you are both educable and worth educating.  Don't cry.  Give me your address and I will send you some toilet paper!
 
OMG you're funny.  Though it is a little sad.  Mostly funny though!
 
 
 
 
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Godofgamblers       1/20/2009 9:44:57 PM




I thought this poster had been banned for spamming these boards and/or for posting obscene photos. I'll have to check in the archives, but i don't think i'm wrong.



 








I have never posted obscene photos in this forum or spamming as i recall, in fact this is maybe my third time posting thread in this forum if im not mistaken, you people are so low for resorting to this against me, I have been to many forums and i never met more disgraceful people than in this forum, flaming me in this forum i still can accept, but accusing me of posting nasty pictures are just low and downright idiotic behaviour

Sorry if i'm wrong.... but i do recall some sort of problem. Multiple postings on this board with strange subjects, almost looked like a virus or a cyber attack on the site. But I could be wrong. I'd check your name in the archives, but actually, a name like that i'd rather not key into any search engine!!!
Can't you come up with a more civil name? You may find you get a better reception....
 
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HERALD1357    Top dpwn corruption and murder.   1/21/2009 12:11:43 AM




Engineers?



 



Hu Jintao, the butcher of Tibet is an engineer? Oh yeah he worked on irrigation systems while he was a young communist punk in Gansu province. He soon found a patron and went beyond that.drudge work. *In the `1980s he went to the Central Party School to become a CCP party hack. Over here we would call him after such training a !@#$%^&*() :LAWYER or more correctly a mandarin functionary.Ip the traditoopnl tiocket punching route with the Communist Youth l;eague .Made political c0nnedctions with Song Ping and aligned himself into the personal circle of the national economic criminal, Deng Xao Peng.



 



Hu became the party functionary in charge of Tibet after the previous party provincial secretary died of "high altitude sickness" (he was probably ":removed".to get him out of the way because of the mess he stirred  up that resulted in a province wode outbreak of rioting.).






 



What was Hu's furst act?













How about the extremely convenient DEATH of the Panchan Lama?






 



And then there was the martial law order, mass arrests and state sanctioned murders which immediately followed.that convenient death.






 



There's more, you PRC. Civilized? You are hardly in any position to use the term or complain about it; BANDIT.



 



Herald






 






 




As i said in my post its 8 out of 9 top party leaders are engineers according to newsweek, not its president, and they are also the top leaderships in China, which also happen to be hu jintao top advisers,

Chinese human right records yes its bad and definetely need working on, but isn't it the case for most of major developing nations in the world?, why china its the only one in the spotlights, like the gujarat muslim massacre in india, which pretty much sanctioned by the local government,  the indian instution of caste is another example of gross human right violations, in which lower caste people is still called the untouchables, and did very menial and polluting work related to bodily decay and dirt, indonesia is another example of a country with a disgraful human right records, and religion violence, and your country itself is in disgrace forever by allowing torture for POWs

 

Go peddle your lies elsewhere, bandit. I know these PRC bastards and you.
 
Why do I waste time with a barbarian z&*66;ug&*66;u; with what apparently is a tàijiàn? I must be nuts. Do the Earth a favor, little bandit for once, and qù s&*64;.with the rest of your oppressor class. Let the Chinese People be free of you, hùndàn.  
 
Herald 
 
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