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Subject: Why all the hostilities towards China?
analdestroyer    1/19/2009 12:29:29 AM
I sometimes wonder why all the hostilities towards china in this forum?, i even read that someone suggested the US to send B2 to wreck chinese three gorges dam? where all of this come from, is it from jealousy?, certaintly not as you americans has been living so well off, is it because dare i say 'fear' as the chinese are rapidly catching up on you, certainly this is exagerrating, no matter how fast the chinese are growing its still decades away to be on the same footing as the US, or is it because they are different? different in their way of doing things that you guys are so worked up, different yet produces the same or arguably better results, for example china is not democracy so it must be evil, yes china is not democracy nor it needed to be at the moment, but its heading that way, for democracy to work first the state must achieve stability and to achieve stability means continuing economic growth, after all democray is where the people become more affluent and so they demand more say on how goverments run things, remember democray does not make western countries rich, they become rich because of colonization (mercantilism) and industrialization (which is what the chinese are doing), secondly your mantra of free market capitalism over state controlled economy, you seems to think that the state is naturally idiot and the market is naturally brilliant, guess again it was an epic mistake, it is you who now moving toward state control—by nationalizing the banking and car industries, and imposing heavy new regulation on the financial industry, accusing them of yuan depreciation while ignoring the fact that is has been increasing by 21.5% towards the dollars, the chinese are a nation of learners they learn from others success and mistakes, they want to avoid the fate of russia in 90's moving too fast from socialism economy to free market and democracy, you americans called it shock therapy which proves to be all shock and no therapy, and you might be suprised that 8 out of 9 of its top leaderships is engineers instead of attorneys and lawyers like in the US you should read this article on newsweek http://www.newsweek.com/id/178810/page/1 its quite rare US media potrays China in positive light
 
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Nichevo       2/23/2009 10:44:08 AM

Well trained you are; button pusher. You are almost as good as the last PRC bandit tool I chased out of here. Problem is that you leave :"tells", language traits that show you thinking in 'glyphs' and trying to translate into "words" to pull it off. There is a difference in the smear that each analogous idea covers. That is why I see that you try to use English language tactics on a person who uses English as just ONE of the several languages he uses, and I just guffaw at YOU.     



Incidentally he's not a teenager. And you need to learn a lot more about the subtleties of ENGLISH.


 

Too bad. You need to do better if I'm going to get my morning belly laugh. Right now its just a chuckle.


 


Herald


 

 
He really doesn't believe that we can tell.  Can you dig it!  Literally any 85 IQ native born American janitor could tell he's not from around here (I except Herc as she's not native born American of course).
 
 
You know what, he said he hasn't graduated high school and I believe him.  He is a high school student most likely, that's how he knows so much about his parents' basement. If he is Chi-Am and living here, it must not have been for long.  No, I don't think he lives around Americans, or hasn't for long.  A very recent immigrant at best.  What do his parent(s?) do, you think?
 
Do you think he means he is a half-caste?  No, surely then he would have learned some humility, though to be sure he would be even more defensive.
 
It's the egos that will be their downfall.  Kid, you suck, and the joy part is that the only way for you to improve is to admit it. Which will never happen. 
 
So anal destroyer = EPIC FAIL forevermore.  Yeah, kid, go get me banned.  Hurry up, I'm timing you, schmuck.
 
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YelliChink       2/23/2009 11:22:53 AM

That said, there's plenty Beijing needs to do, too. It should continue to exercise restraint on Taiwan. It should allow its currency to keep rising to a more natural level, in order to prevent its trading partners from turning to protectionism. And it should reign in Chinese nationalism. As communism fades and materialism fails to satisfy demands for a good life, nationalism could fill the void. Once unleashed, such a force is hard to control. To avoid this risk, China needs to keep growing economically and gradually open politically.


There are multiple fails just from this paragraph. If you really believe you post here, then you are indeed mentally a teenager.
 
If you don't believe what you posted, then it means that you're lying to us in order to advance your agenda.
 

 
 
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HERALD1357    youn are so out of your league, its funny.   2/23/2009 11:35:15 AM



One hand clapping.



























1. Sure you can call me a commie troll for whatever reason in your head, to be equally racist you are a curry loving towelhead hairy monkey indian ass licker  i didn't fire the first shot, but willling to dance all night long














































































You are so ignorant about history of WG, and you seem to forget that there was no rice in the bowl during 1959-1962 "Mao-made" disaster. In short, you are a commie, and that is now proven true. I didn't call you name merely as an insult. Instead, I call you a commie because you are a commie, as you have proven yourself already. Your ignorance on other's culture and social problems is equally staggering. Given your knowledge level about WG, I can come up with the conclusion that you are also ignorant about the rest of Chinese history, probably except the part where commie historians tried so hard to fit Marxist historic views to incompatible Chinese history. The more you post, the more you reveal you're indeed a commie troll.















In 5 years time when you leave your teenage years you will look back at the posts you made on this forum and laugh, everyone else is doing that already.


















Well trained you are; button pusher. You are almost as good as the last PRC bandit tool I chased out of here. Problem is that you leave :"tells", language traits that show you thinking in 'glyphs' and trying to translate into "words" to pull it off. There is a difference in the smear that each analogous idea covers. That is why I see that you try to use English language tactics on a person who uses English as just ONE of the several languages he uses, and I just guffaw at YOU.     







Incidentally he's not a teenager. And you need to learn a lot more about the subtleties of ENGLISH.






 



Too bad. You need to do better if I'm going to get my morning belly laugh. Right now its just a chuckle.






 






Herald






 



 


Man what the heck are you talking about?, im just typing pure english, not shakespeare plays, thats good if you can talk fluently in another languages (we got something in common after all) other than english which i see as an advantage instead of a handicap, and stop watching james bond movies, not everyone here who disagrees with you is a PRC communist members



I punched your buttons exactly as I intended. Now where is that grammar analyzer now that I have a true read of your language skills!
 
Righto, about 10th grade and not first language English user. 
 
I wonder if you are an import or just the domestic variety of PRC bandit arriving by proxy?
 
Care to confess, or do we need to compile you?
 
Herald
 
 
 
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strat-T21C    GoG   2/23/2009 11:37:14 AM
I believe that my point about the Indo gov't was explained in later posts. ie: the corruption stuff, that is not a responsible, accountable action that a people should accept. ( or even have to expeariance) 
 
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YelliChink       2/23/2009 1:03:19 PM

I believe that my point about the Indo gov't was explained in later posts. ie: the corruption stuff, that is not a responsible, accountable action that a people should accept. ( or even have to expeariance) 
Suharto's Indo gov't fermented anti-Chinese sentiment and was the instigator of anti-Chinese riot. I think Nichevo's right, this guy is so ignorant that he thinks we are as ignorant as he is.
 
He fail to undersand what commie regime is all about.
 
He fail to understand how dictators think.
 
He fail to understand what's the life under an authoritarian, a totalitarian or a despotic regime.
 
He fail to understand the damage of WG to Chinese culture, economy and education.
 
He fail to understand the relation between commies and recent surge of extreme Chinese nationalism (i.e. the Chinese should be master race and dominate the world).
 
Thus, EPIC FAIL as Nichevo said.
 
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Softwar       2/23/2009 2:43:34 PM
It would seem that we are all pretty much in agreement here - AD is a clueless troll who has zero knowledge of international affairs, government, the communist party in general and its bloody history in specific.
 
Therefore - as the others have noted - he has failed to prove his point.
 
I - like so many others - am not against the Chinese people.  In fact, I feel sorry for them since they are the ones who suffer the most at the hands of the CCP.  I oppose the PLA, and CCP.  The CCP makes the policy but the PLA and its strong arms in the PAP, MSS break the heads. 
 
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analdestroyer       2/23/2009 11:59:40 PM

Ah - now the shoe fits..

 

So AD - do you have ties with Soharto or are you doing service to some of his relatives?  After what they did to your government - I would not be surprise if you are using gold to probe people.

 

His son Bambang lives in California after he scammed millions from your government (and mine) doing service with ENRON trying to build electric power plants for Java.  I think he is in a mansion right next to a pop star. 

 

So - is the Paiton Power plant in operation yet?  I always wondered if it is still dead after 20 years of trying to build it with Soharto relavtives sucking all the money out in bribes and kickbacks.  I provided a ton of FOIA documents to PLN (the state run electric company) lawyers to invalidate most of the deals because of the known corruption.  Heck, our Commerce Department wrote volumes on the Indonesian "first family involvment" - key words that describe the details of billions in kickbacks required to do business.

 

Soharto's daughter Tutut had herself a sweet heart deal with PT Energi Sengkang - I think they paid out about $25 million in bribes to her before the plant construction was called off.  All in all - the KKN (corruption, collusion and nepotism) cost your government around $15 to $16 billion - and none of the power plants ever made it into operation.

 

So - if you have power (electric power that is) - its a wonder.  Right now - most of your fellow Indonesians can't run a 60 watt light bulb and a hot plate - thanks in part to Soharto and his relatives requiring kick-backs.

 

Still, this fits out nicely guys - consider the Indonesian LIPPO bank and all of its friends.  Riady donated money illegally to Bill Clinton.  In fact, Riady's gardener contributed $450,000 in a single check to Clinton - with these fine words on video "James Riady sent me".  Riady gave him $500,000 but the gardener got to keep $50,000 before he blew town and never returned. 

 

Of course, the LIPPO bank was implicated in far deeper dealings with a ton of money coming from its Beijing partner - a front company for the PLA intelligence (MID) Department.


Ah this one also fits for somebody who spent all his lifetime reading bad  Cold War novels and endless  replays of Dr Strangelove, this type of people always suspect someone who have little knowledge of some countries that he dislikes, to be somekind of Dr Julius No, wake up its 2009 already, learn about a thing a called "google" if you don't know ask your 5 year old grandson, he can teach you how to use it,
 
Now while you are at it, try to search this name on google;  "bernard madoff"  he is american and you will see that this guy makes suharto look like a supermarket petty thief, imagine how many thousands live savings has he wiped out, and thats just one guy,  how many more still waiting to be exposed?, the incompetency of SEC is beyond belief, third world standard, and you still want to claim yourself to be not corrupt?
 
Lessons learned today:
 
1. Look hard in the mirror first before judging others
2. Your financial institutions is as corrupt or as incompetence as third world nations
 
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analdestroyer       2/24/2009 12:07:00 AM







One hand clapping.























































1. Sure you can call me a commie troll for whatever reason in your head, to be equally racist you are a curry loving towelhead hairy monkey indian ass licker  i didn't fire the first shot, but willling to dance all night long






























































































































































You are so ignorant about history of WG, and you seem to forget that there was no rice in the bowl during 1959-1962 "Mao-made" disaster. In short, you are a commie, and that is now proven true. I didn't call you name merely as an insult. Instead, I call you a commie because you are a commie, as you have proven yourself already. Your ignorance on other's culture and social problems is equally staggering. Given your knowledge level about WG, I can come up with the conclusion that you are also ignorant about the rest of Chinese history, probably except the part where commie historians tried so hard to fit Marxist historic views to incompatible Chinese history. The more you post, the more you reveal you're indeed a commie troll.































In 5 years time when you leave your teenage years you will look back at the posts you made on this forum and laugh, everyone else is doing that already.






































Well tr
 
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analdestroyer       2/24/2009 12:22:21 AM




That said, there's plenty Beijing needs to do, too. It should continue to exercise restraint on Taiwan. It should allow its currency to keep rising to a more natural level, in order to prevent its trading partners from turning to protectionism. And it should reign in Chinese nationalism. As communism fades and materialism fails to satisfy demands for a good life, nationalism could fill the void. Once unleashed, such a force is hard to control. To avoid this risk, China needs to keep growing economically and gradually open politically.





There are multiple fails just from this paragraph. If you really believe you post here, then you are indeed mentally a teenager.

 

If you don't believe what you posted, then it means that you're lying to us in order to advance your agenda.


 




 

 Hey gimme a break please, thats the quote that i copy and pasted directly from newsweek  http://www.newsweek.com/id/177410/page/1  by Richard.N.Haas a native english speaker newsweek reporter so if you want to whine about errors in his paragraph, please direct your complaint to him, im sure he is more than willing to teach you how to construct a correct paragraph http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/face23.gif" align="absMiddle" border="0" alt="" /> 
 
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analdestroyer       2/24/2009 12:55:00 AM



Well trained you are; button pusher. You are almost as good as the last PRC bandit tool I chased out of here. Problem is that you leave :"tells", language traits that show you thinking in 'glyphs' and trying to translate into "words" to pull it off. There is a difference in the smear that each analogous idea covers. That is why I see that you try to use English language tactics on a person who uses English as just ONE of the several languages he uses, and I just guffaw at YOU.     







Incidentally he's not a teenager. And you need to learn a lot more about the subtleties of ENGLISH.






 



Too bad. You need to do better if I'm going to get my morning belly laugh. Right now its just a chuckle.






 






Herald






 



 


He really doesn't believe that we can tell.  Can you dig it!  Literally any 85 IQ native born American janitor could tell he's not from around here (I except Herc as she's not native born American of course).


 

 

You know what, he said he hasn't graduated high school and I believe him.  He is a high school student most likely, that's how he knows so much about his parents' basement. If he is Chi-Am and living here, it must not have been for long.  No, I don't think he lives around Americans, or hasn't for long.  A very recent immigrant at best.  What do his parent(s?) do, you think?


 

Do you think he means he is a half-caste?  No, surely then he would have learned some humility, though to be sure he would be even more defensive.


 

It's the egos that will be their downfall.  Kid, you suck, and the joy part is that the only way for you to improve is to admit it. Which will never happen. 

 

So anal destroyer = EPIC FAIL forevermore.  Yeah, kid, go get me banned.  Hurry up, I'm timing you, schmuck.



So you wanna go down to this level huh? so be it, but i hope any moderator or whoever in charge here can judge fairly, that im not the first one to opened a can of whoop ass Chris brown style here,
sure you can just assume me to be whoever you might think i am, and thats what exactly internet is made for isn't it?, so that 12 years old can pretend that he is a former engineer of Lockheed Martin, Pentagon strategist, ex CIA agents, or whatever strikes your fancy, so i don't see the point of arguing on real life identities in an internet forum, but for the sake of tickling your ego, for now let just assume that i am a teenager whose parents is Chinese communist spies secretly trying to steal US military secrets, and overthrow the US goverments, how about that?, does it strikes your imagination?, does it provide you with new inspiration to write your next james bond fan fictions? To pretend to be what you are not in an internet forum, i find this to be the most pathetic thing someone can do, and you now talking about ego, the 2 polarized giants need to help each other. If they wrestle both of them falls; the rest of the world get crushed, just see how the financial crisis now, thats a fact, refusing to accept that is a sure sign of immaturity


 
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