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Subject: Why all the hostilities towards China?
analdestroyer    1/19/2009 12:29:29 AM
I sometimes wonder why all the hostilities towards china in this forum?, i even read that someone suggested the US to send B2 to wreck chinese three gorges dam? where all of this come from, is it from jealousy?, certaintly not as you americans has been living so well off, is it because dare i say 'fear' as the chinese are rapidly catching up on you, certainly this is exagerrating, no matter how fast the chinese are growing its still decades away to be on the same footing as the US, or is it because they are different? different in their way of doing things that you guys are so worked up, different yet produces the same or arguably better results, for example china is not democracy so it must be evil, yes china is not democracy nor it needed to be at the moment, but its heading that way, for democracy to work first the state must achieve stability and to achieve stability means continuing economic growth, after all democray is where the people become more affluent and so they demand more say on how goverments run things, remember democray does not make western countries rich, they become rich because of colonization (mercantilism) and industrialization (which is what the chinese are doing), secondly your mantra of free market capitalism over state controlled economy, you seems to think that the state is naturally idiot and the market is naturally brilliant, guess again it was an epic mistake, it is you who now moving toward state control—by nationalizing the banking and car industries, and imposing heavy new regulation on the financial industry, accusing them of yuan depreciation while ignoring the fact that is has been increasing by 21.5% towards the dollars, the chinese are a nation of learners they learn from others success and mistakes, they want to avoid the fate of russia in 90's moving too fast from socialism economy to free market and democracy, you americans called it shock therapy which proves to be all shock and no therapy, and you might be suprised that 8 out of 9 of its top leaderships is engineers instead of attorneys and lawyers like in the US you should read this article on newsweek http://www.newsweek.com/id/178810/page/1 its quite rare US media potrays China in positive light
 
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Nichevo       2/17/2009 10:02:37 PM
OK, show of hands, who is having fun with this turd and who wants to flush him? 
 
Ass bandit, if you don't shape up we will rat you out to SYSOP and then you will have to log on with a new name because your old one will be BANNED.  (I think the curry remark combined with your total worthlessness will do for casus belli.) 
 
We will still know it's you because of your unique style but like you say, we can dance all night.
 
So why don't you say something of some value to someone besides yourself.  Your masters wouldn't be pleased if they know how badly you are doing, commie rat.   You are bu hao.

 
 
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Godofgamblers       2/17/2009 10:14:39 PM
Have to agree with you Nich. Generally you know my point of view is to let everyone have their say, but for AD to claim the cultural revolutino was a milestone in chinese culture is so ignorant, it's tantamount to saying that the Killing Fields was a positive development in the intellectual and cultural history of Cambodia.
 
"Socialist Realism" was a sort of mini dark ages for all the countries that had to undergo it. Forcing artists, writers and painters, film makers, intellecturals, all the creative people to regulate their work according to communist ideology ---with the punishment being torture and death---- was a cultural nadir in world history. Having met many Polish intellectuals who lived thru this phase of their country's history, i can attest that many lives were ruined, families ripped apart and the nation was poorer as a whole.
 
AD, the search for a "pure" communism, a "pure" islam means you want to walk down the road of the Taliban, the Khmer Rouge. If you are simply a Pakistani (which i suspect) using this angle to bash India, that's one thing, but if you have sincerely brainwashed yourself into believing this sort of ideology, i sincerely hope you never have power over anyone.
 
 
 
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Nichevo    PRC intel sucks anal destroyers!   2/19/2009 9:25:20 PM
Oh, GoG, I wouldn't presume to judge or restrict him based on ideology.  I welcome the evil here, it exposes them to the light. 
 
It's just that the quality is zero.  At least our Russian propagandists/homers/advocates have some brains, some honesty, sometimes a point, try hard, and are proud of what they do. 
 
And he doesn't even understand what we say!  I could tell him the secret PACRIM defense plans and he wouldn't have the brains to understand me nor the manners to ask me to explain.
 
Give me a dozen razputins or Lance Blades rather than this worthless matyeryebyets!  C'mon, China, haven't you got anybody good?!?
 
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Parmenion    Panda...   2/19/2009 9:35:43 PM

They could train a Panda to type randomly on a keyboard. That would probably be more effective. Though to be honest, it's a bit like overkill to rip on this guy, he does it to himself anyway. Plus if he honestly believes the Cultural Revolution was a good thing for China then nature has already cursed him more than we ever could.

 
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Godofgamblers       2/19/2009 10:46:14 PM

They could train a Panda to type randomly on a keyboard. That would probably be more effective. Though to be honest, it's a bit like overkill to rip on this guy, he does it to himself anyway. Plus if he honestly believes the Cultural Revolution was a good thing for China then nature has already cursed him more than we ever could.



I don't think he's Chinese, Parmenion. He's already proven that by his statements. Even the most hardline communist would have mixed feelings ----at the very least--- about that period in history as so many people lost relatives to executions, "rehabiliti\ation" , deportation to the countryside for hard labor, etc.
Perhaps you have seen some of the excellent Chinese cinema on this subject.... THE BLUE KITE and TO LIVE come to mind.... two excellent excellent films that rip you apart when you watch them because they are all true. the director actually denounced his own father to the authorities (Big Brother style!) and his father perished in a forced labor camp. Only when he was older did he comprehend the evil he had done.... and now he spends his days trying to expiate his deed thru cinema...
 
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Godofgamblers       2/19/2009 10:50:38 PM

Oh, GoG, I wouldn't presume to judge or restrict him based on ideology.  I welcome the evil here, it exposes them to the light. 

 

 



I agree with your stance completely, my friend.
 
For the record i admire your kickass attitude hehe
 
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Parmenion    RE: Panda    2/19/2009 11:01:23 PM
Thanks GOG I'll try to watch those films they sound moving. I cried when the spider died in Charlotte's web though so I'll stock up on kleenex. To be honest though, regardless of nationality, anyone who praises the Cultural Revolution is cursed by nature. Or misguided. Personally I'm not filled with kick ass sentiment, but pity. And sadness for that Chinese director and his father.
 
Regards Parmenion
 
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Parmenion    RE: Panda    2/19/2009 11:03:48 PM
Thanks GOG I'll try to watch those films they sound moving. I cried when the spider died in Charlotte's web though so I'll stock up on kleenex. To be honest though, regardless of nationality, anyone who praises the Cultural Revolution is cursed by nature. Or misguided. Personally I'm not filled with kick ass sentiment, but pity. And sadness for that Chinese director and his father.
 
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Parmenion    Not a complete waste of time?   2/19/2009 11:09:50 PM
By the, do any of you guys thinks that this thread actually has been sort of instructive? It was about anti-Chinese sentiment, and the responses have pretty much demonstratged that the members of this forum have a mature and compassionate view towards the Chinese people. Its the just the PRC bandits everyone hates, and there's a very, very good argument to be made for that.
 
We can hold our heads high, and analrapist or whatever his name is has been contradicted.
 
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HERALD1357    You can and have to be quite objective.   2/20/2009 3:53:06 AM
Prejudice against the Chinese people is like prejudice against your right arm. I would argue that you cannot be Human without ALL of Humanity.

So you have to temper your disgust and limit it to at what the "PRC bandits" term means..
 
They are the 1%ers, who among the Chinese people, oppress, maim, kill, brainwash, loot, misrule, etc.
 
For those of you who want to know where the term 1%er that I use comes?
 
 
Outlaws, criminals, frauds, the corrupt among the power elite-these are the political 1%ers..    
 
American examples are Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Mitt Romney, Richard Cheney, etc.
 
Herald

 
 
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