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Subject: Has anyone ever tried this one?
jastayme3    11/14/2008 12:55:58 PM
Operation Plan Jastay 1. Do a battalion-sized cordon-and-sweep through a given Area of Operations(an unsecured AO obviously) 2. leave after a week or so 3. leave behind large bodies of special ops forces hidden in the AO The point is that a cordon and sweep tends to drive insurgents out of an AO or force them underground. But if it leaves because there are not enough resources to consolidate, the insurgents will simply return, in the manner of townsfolk coming out of their shelters after a tornado passes. The Special Forces will be assigned to ambush the insurgents when they are returning to the AO. Has anything like this ever been done?
 
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ArtyEngineer    Op Azada Wosa (Remain Free) conducted by 26th MEU in A'stan   11/14/2008 1:02:03 PM
Op Asad Wosas was carried out in the manner you speak in Helmand Provence recently, "My Boys" were in continuous combat operations for 36 days, so a bit longer than your scenario!!!!  Couldnt possibly comment on a SF component remaining behind to see who comes out of the wodwork!!!
 
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ArtyEngineer    Correction - 24th MEU   11/14/2008 1:03:55 PM
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jastayme3       11/14/2008 1:41:51 PM

Op Asad Wosas was carried out in the manner you speak in Helmand Provence recently, "My Boys" were in continuous combat operations for 36 days, so a bit longer than your scenario!!!!  Couldnt possibly comment on a SF component remaining behind to see who comes out of the wodwork!!!

Well the SF is the key difference from this plan and a standard cordon-and-sweep.
 
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JFKY    Isn't it more likely   11/14/2008 2:19:18 PM
that after the cordon and sweep, not SF guys, but the local government and it's police/intelligence agencies move in, to mop up the infrastructure?  The goal is to get the leadership cadre and to win the hearts and minds of the residents, not be all tricksy and cute in killing bad guys.
 
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jastayme3       11/14/2008 2:56:42 PM

that after the cordon and sweep, not SF guys, but the local government and it's police/intelligence agencies move in, to mop up the infrastructure?  The goal is to get the leadership cadre and to win the hearts and minds of the residents, not be all tricksy and cute in killing bad guys.

Normally. But I am asking if it has ever been tried, not if it was good policy. Also it there could be situations where you are to busy securing a given AO to securing this one, and you mainly wish to keep the enemy busy and off balance.
 
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jastayme3       11/14/2008 3:01:54 PM



that after the cordon and sweep, not SF guys, but the local government and it's police/intelligence agencies move in, to mop up the infrastructure?  The goal is to get the leadership cadre and to win the hearts and minds of the residents, not be all tricksy and cute in killing bad guys.





Normally. But I am asking if it has ever been tried, not if it was good policy. Also it there could be situations where you are to busy securing a given AO to securing this one, and you mainly wish to keep the enemy busy and off balance.

This would be a possible scenario.
 
AO 1, is being secured.
 
Insurgents are infiltrating from AO 2
 
There are not enough resources to secure both AOs at once.
 
So instead of this, we follow Op-plan Jastay as described.



 
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