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The Lizard King    8/8/2008 9:40:38 AM
Russia has invaded Georgia.
 
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andyf    kosovo-stylee   8/11/2008 1:03:05 PM
the georgians were hoping for a US charging in like in the kosovo war.
obviously not realizing that the precedent has now been set that seperatism is allowed.
they elected a right wing nationalist president who promptly decided to go and punch a bear in the face
wooops
hopefully the spin doctors wont get to the press for a while, I am waiting for the spin....
'russian nuclear capable bombers yesterday destroyed a nunnery and several schools with napalm and cluster bombs'
 
waiting for the spin
 
 
 
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DGreat1       8/11/2008 8:42:37 PM
America is going to have a difficult time holding their coalition together if they don't do something fast. It doesn't look good when your coalition partner helps you fight the war on terror and then you do nothing while Russia threatens to overrun them.
 
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00_Chem_AJB       8/11/2008 8:48:30 PM

America is going to have a difficult time holding their coalition together if they don't do something fast. It doesn't look good when your coalition partner helps you fight the war on terror and then you do nothing while Russia threatens to overrun them.


The US is between a rock and a hard place, how do take on Russia, a country which has a capable and large armed forces, with nuclear weapons?
 
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Phaid       8/11/2008 9:49:52 PM

America is going to have a difficult time holding their coalition together if they don't do something fast. It doesn't look good when your coalition partner helps you fight the war on terror and then you do nothing while Russia threatens to overrun them.

This might be true if Georgia was just a passive victim in all of this.  But they should have known that sending troops into South Ossetia had potentially catastrophic consequences.  Russia has been saying for months that military action by Georgia would push the two countries into war. 
 
 
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The Lizard King       8/12/2008 3:41:53 AM
"The US is between a rock and a hard place, how do take on Russia, a country which has a capable and large armed forces, with nuclear weapons?"
 
Asymmetrical Warfare & Proxy Wars.
 
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The Lizard King       8/12/2008 6:54:40 AM
Also, by using SA-11 Buk-M1 and Tor-1M mobile air defense missile systems.
 
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00_Chem_AJB       8/12/2008 12:37:27 PM

"The US is between a rock and a hard place, how do take on Russia, a country which has a capable and large armed forces, with nuclear weapons?"

 

Asymmetrical Warfare & Proxy Wars.



True, but that is a risky long term strategy, we can make the world a much safer place if we were to bring Russia into the fold, but only if they can swallow their pride. In better news Russia seems to be stoping their actions in Georgia, according tot he Kermlin at least. 
 
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The Lizard King    This mess could have been avoided   8/17/2008 1:15:32 PM

Europe let Georgia into NATO.

 
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DGreat1       8/17/2008 4:16:17 PM
Russia cannot afford a nuclear exchange with America at this point. As always, they were overly aggressive. They killed over two thousand people in Georgia only to agree to pull their forces back tomorrow when challenged by America. All of that killing and they gained very  little unless you consider the possibility that their aim was to damage Americas relationship with its Georgian coalition partners in addition to sending out a stern messge to America's other coalition partners. The message appears to be that nations should be careful not to become a flashpoint for Russia's intervention, as their intervention will be certain and severe in nature. Time will tell if Russia was successful  in damaging the relationship between America and its coalition partners, although it is important to note that Georgia has pulled forces out of Iraq. Al Qaeda used the same strategy against Spain a few years ago when they facilitated the removal of Spanish troops from Iraq by launching a vicious terrorist attack in Spain. Russia is as ruthless now as they ever were in the past. 
 
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Hugo       8/17/2008 4:37:39 PM

Europe let Georgia into NATO.



  Europe is not a single political entity..  In fact as it was revealed by the Georgian President in a joint press conference with Angela Merkel today, it was Germany who had been the main promoter of Georgia's entry to NATO and who had convinced other European members that Georgia should be admitted. 
 
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