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Subject: .357 Magnum stopping power
GOP    3/12/2007 10:24:42 PM
Whatsup guys? What kind of Self defense round is the .357 mag? Some of you may know that I'm 17, but I'm a gun nut, and love the S&W 686 with 4 inch barrel in .357 mag/.38 special. I'd use the gun almost completely for shooting at the range, but when I turn 21 I plan on getting my CCW license/pistol permit so it would then be used legally as a self-defense weapon. Just curious what your thoughts on the round is. The reason I like it is because it's stainless steal, and therefore won't rust (we own a fishing boat and it may be used by my Dad on the boat as a Self-Defense weapon). It's also highly, highly thought of in the NSW community (most SEALs don't like the the Sig P226 Navy, because they basically rust at the sound of "salt water")
 
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WarNerd       9/23/2010 4:28:36 AM

No sir. The only gun I've ever fired was a .22 rifle a LONG time ago. However, I did have a crush on a Thompson center fire Icon if that counts.....
 
But thanks for the advice, it reinforced my decision to forgo the .44 mag despite the allure of the power and Dirty Harry's portrayal of it.
 
The only thing I plan on using whichever pistol I buy(most likely a Taurus .357 mag model, perhaps the Tracker but if any of you can recommend a better model in the general price range of a non-gun nut who only wants protection I'd be more than grateful) is much target practice, then getting the permit for packing heat so I have the reassurance of it during a situation of life-threatening duress.

Just get one that is either a shrouded or hammerless design if you plan on concealed carry.  The standard hammer is a hook just looking for something to hang up on in an emergency.
 
You should also think carefully about your mental state.  If you are the first to pull out a gun you are automatically escalating a already bad situation.  In most cases, unless you are psychologically prepared to use lethal force and sure of your legal position, you are better off without the gun.
 
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Chopper       9/23/2010 5:58:17 PM



No sir. The only gun I've ever fired was a .22 rifle a LONG time ago. However, I did have a crush on a Thompson center fire Icon if that counts.....

 

But thanks for the advice, it reinforced my decision to forgo the .44 mag despite the allure of the power and Dirty Harry's portrayal of it.

 

The only thing I plan on using whichever pistol I buy(most likely a Taurus .357 mag model, perhaps the Tracker but if any of you can recommend a better model in the general price range of a non-gun nut who only wants protection I'd be more than grateful) is much target practice, then getting the permit for packing heat so I have the reassurance of it during a situation of life-threatening duress.




Just get one that is either a shrouded or hammerless design if you plan on concealed carry.  The standard hammer is a hook just looking for something to hang up on in an emergency.

 

You should also think carefully about your mental state.  If you are the first to pull out a gun you are automatically escalating a already bad situation.  In most cases, unless you are psychologically prepared to use lethal force and sure of your legal position, you are better off without the gun.


Thanks sir. Actually, I'm rather hoping I won't have to pull the gun out at all in an emergency. Surely the sight of a piece will deter many would be thugs. 
 
As far as pulling a gun out first, I may not have mentioned this, but I am going on a tour of the U.S soon, and I live in a relatively safe place. However, I know that not all places are like this one, and bodily threats through various crime are ordinary. As such I've spent some amount of time thinking about instances like muggings, etc, and here's what my limited experience and practicality has come up with.
 
Professionals don't mug. Thugs mug. Criminals with nerves of steel and restraint and control surely are doing higher echelon crimes like heists or something because there seems like too many uncontrollable factors in muggings, store robberies, etc. Now, the mindset of someone holding a gun against you has to be near panic. They have to be just as scared as you are, maybe worse. Their trigger finger must be on edge. As such, I don't think trying to be John Wayne and trying to see if you can draw faster than he can shoot would be a good idea. Stupid really. I want to survive. Not kill someone. I'm thinking that doing whatever he says and keeping calm while trying to talk to HIM and letting him no he's in control and that you are doing what he says and that so far, he hasn't done anything too serious and that he doesn't want to add murder onto this. Just do what he says. Hope we walks off. 
 
But there are also situations where force IS necessary. I trust my better judgment to be able to recognize them, and I also trust I can do what is required when it comes to me or them.
 
Also, I'm more than a little worried if I don't purchase a firearm soon, with the way our gov is I won't be able to in the future. 
 
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