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Subject: why no optics on m4
bravoss    11/3/2005 9:56:34 AM
well i have seen many pictures of sf soldiers with no optical sights mounted on their m4s.why would someone go on m4 with m203 with no optics?what are the benefits?
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:why no optics on m4   11/7/2005 9:36:57 AM
>>well it might be true for aimpoint because of the electronics but i dont see the reason why acog 4x shouldnt work,sniper rifle scopes work altough exposed to water.<< First, they may work if exposed to some salt water spray or brief immersion, but what if the SEALs you are seeing did a subsurface swim to infiltrate their objective? Second, there may be a simple SOP -- no optics during water ops, install them on land. Or there may not be. I certainly don't have the answer, just tossing out ideas. Of course, being SEALs, they may have skipped on the optics because if Charlie Sheen didn't need optics, they don't need them either . . .
 
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brav    RE:why no optics on m4   11/8/2005 11:03:01 AM
''First, they may work if exposed to some salt water spray or brief immersion, but what if the SEALs you are seeing did a subsurface swim to infiltrate their objective? Second, there may be a simple SOP -- no optics during water ops, install them on land. Or there may not be. I certainly don't have the answer, just tossing out ideas.'' yeah might be,thanks for providing with some good reasons:-)
 
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BrknCylnsr       12/7/2008 11:54:30 PM
Old topic, but here's the deal. External optics on a weapon have a tendency to lose their zero when the weapon is smacked around while jumping over walls, diving between rooms/furniture, and unfortunately after IED blasts. Ironsights work when they're suppose to work and if it broke while in action, then any external sight would surely have broken as well. 
 
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