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Subject: Remington 700 PSS/VL
RaptorZ    8/24/2005 3:53:28 PM
Anyone have any thoughts of this weapon as a sniper rifle? effective range? lethality? Accuracy (I know it's more who's holding the weapon, but entertain me on this) Practicality? Any additional thoughts to it if any at all thanks!
 
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Bigbro    RE:Remington 700    8/29/2005 9:27:11 PM
700 vs in .308 $599 at local hardware store. savage heavy barrel $465. Bb PS I have a ruger M77 varmit in .280 rem.
 
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Bigbro    RE:Remington 700 PSS/VL   8/29/2005 9:33:46 PM
"learn to handload if you dont already. Not only do you save money (Federal gld medal match ammo is far from cheap!), but you can also tailor your load to your rifle. Half the fun I've had was developing my pet load and shooting four times as much in the process. If you do handload already, I highly recommend Hodgen's Varget as probably the best powder behind a Sierra 168gr BTHP Match King. That combination beats the Federal Gold Medal Match in my rifle ... which is usually no easy feat. " This is good advice. Tuned hand loads will almost always beat factory ammo in my experence. Nosler balistic tips have always been very good shooters for me and I start with them when I start reloading for any thing bigger than .224.
 
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lrsrng    RE:Remington 700 PSS/VL   8/30/2005 6:13:06 PM
Savage 110 from factory with scope mounted 399.00 dollars. Remington 700 590.00 dollars no scope from factory.Aditional purchase.
 
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CJH    RE:Remington 700 PSS/VL   1/1/2006 3:48:30 PM
I have a Remington 700 PSS. I bought it originally with the idea of using it for NRA highpower competition as a match rifle. I followed a fairly tedious procedure for breaking in the barrel. I thought of but did not go ahead and have the receiver milled to accept stripper clips for rapid fire stages and mounting aperture sights on it. At the time I bought this, it was fashionable to put a "Slick 50" compound in rifle barrels around here. Then later I heard this was not a good idea. However, I have not fired the PSS much after break in (It would help to have more than 100 yds to the berm). I did load some rounds in .308 Win using 41.5 gr IMR 4895 (short stick) powder Winchester WLR primers and Sierra 168 gr Match King bullets. The average size of the three - five round groups was 0.5 inches. I was hoping for better but this will do I guess. 1. How would you break in the barrel on a new PSS? 2. What about a PSS NRA highpower match rifle? An long range highpower rifle? 3. I might as well ask you how you yourself would clean a PSS rifle barrel so as not to degrade its accuracy. 4. About doing things that become suspect later, I used to use break cleaner (I believe it is a flouro-carbon solvent like trichloro ethyline) to flush the bores of my rifles as a first step in cleaning but later heard that brake cleaner harms the barrel. I returned to using the standard off the shelf powder fouling bore cleaner preliminary to dealing with the copper fouling but do you have any comment on what brake cleaner does to barrels?
 
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ChdNorm    RE:Remington 700 PSS/VL   1/27/2006 3:20:27 PM
The way I was taught, is slowly breaking in the barrell thru short strings of fire and cleaning. Initially, one round is fired and then a cleaning. This is done thru 10 rounds. Then, two rounds are fired between cleanings to round count 20 (ten strings). Three rounds between cleanings thru round count 32 (four strings). And finally 4 rounds between cleanings thru round count 40 (two strings). Ten rounds between cleanings being the max from that point on. The last barrell I broke in I tried fire lapping the bore for the first time. I can tell no difference in accuracy at all (didnt improve or degrade with same loads at all). But a big difference I have seen in what little trouble it is to get back to a perfectly clean bore. No copper fouling accumulates at all. I think I'm sold on it so far.
 
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HOG       10/31/2008 4:13:19 PM

Savage 110 from factory with scope mounted 399.00 dollars. Remington 700 590.00 dollars no scope from factory.Aditional purchase.


LOL
 
Wow! That's gotta be one awsome weapon system at $399.00. A decent set of optics will go for two or three times that price and just because a rifle has a heavy barrel on it doesn't mean it's a tack driver. There are more than a few things that make a rifle not only accurate, but reliable and repeatable as well, i.e.: rate of twist, length of barrel, type of rifling, caliber, bedding, trigger, fit, tollerance, etc...etc...etc. Not to mention the all important well trained user.
 
When you start to attempt precision enguagement of point targets beyond 600 meters with repeatable accuracy, you'd better have more than paw's hunt'n rifle and a mixed box of ammo. As well, premier optics are a must past 600m. The 6X Tasco from Walmart with bargin rings is not going to cut the mustard.
 
Even with the 700P, there are several improvements that should be made if you want to reach maximum potential. Aside from the M24/M40 SWS, there are no factory guns that will shoot as well as a custom built gun. Then again, that's why the 700P is an excellent purchase. It is a great rifle that has a massive ammount of potential.
 
The Remington 700 action is the base for over 90% of the SWSs in action around the world. Reason? It's a proven platform. It is also the easiest rifle in the world to find replacement or upgraded parts for.
 
Don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the Savage, but don't think that a $400.00 rifle/scope combo is going to come close to shooting with a basic Remington 700 using mid-range optics let alone a 700P with a Schmit & Bender or Leupold tactical scope.
 
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RockyMTNClimber    Norm reply   11/1/2008 10:57:11 AM
I agree with everything Norm said about the Rem. 700. I think I read somewhere recently that Remington just renewed it's contract to provide this rifle to the US Army & while he was in Iraq my nephew (USMC) recently qual'd with the weapon as well as several others in his platoon. This arm seems to have the inside track for this niche. I've had a Leopold Vari-x III on my Ruger#1 for 6-7 years and I couldn't be happier with it. It even survived a jump out of a rolling Jeep where I dinged the rear housing upon landing but it held it's zero just fine.
 
Now as to this Bigfoot thing....... I gotta hear this story..... You carried a sniper rifle while hunting Bigfoot?

It's way too heavy and cumbersome to carry in the field. I carried mine all over the mountains one week while hunting Bigfoot (long story) and swear to this day my arms were two inches longer at the end of the week. <ChdNorm
 
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