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Subject: SHARE NUKE SECRETS WITH CHINA?
Softwar    1/15/2007 1:19:36 PM
"http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070114-113534-6048r.htm" Chinese general's U.S. visit for nuke talks deferred By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES January 15, 2007 China's military is delaying the U.S. visit of its strategic nuclear forces commander despite a promise by Chinese President Hu Jintao last year that the general would hold talks with the U.S. Strategic Command leader. A major worry of defense officials is a proposal being worked on by some U.S. government consultants who would like Gen. Cartwright to offer to share nuclear-weapons technology with China during the Jing visit. The arms-control officials fear that unless U.S. "nuclear sustainability" know-how is shared, China will expand its nuclear arsenal or resume underground nuclear tests. "This has to be stopped," said one defense official opposed to the plan, which has not reached senior policy-makers in the Pentagon or the Strategic Command.
 
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Herald1234       1/15/2007 1:45:30 PM

"http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070114-113534-6048r.htm"

Chinese general's U.S. visit for nuke talks deferred
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
January 15, 2007

China's military is delaying the U.S. visit of its strategic nuclear forces commander despite a promise by Chinese President Hu Jintao last year that the general would hold talks with the U.S. Strategic Command leader.

A major worry of defense officials is a proposal being worked on by some U.S. government consultants who would like Gen. Cartwright to offer to share nuclear-weapons technology with China during the Jing visit. The arms-control officials fear that unless U.S. "nuclear sustainability" know-how is shared, China will expand its nuclear arsenal or resume underground nuclear tests.
"This has to be stopped," said one defense official opposed to the plan, which has not reached senior policy-makers in the Pentagon or the Strategic Command.
Can you supply a specific name to go with the idiot pushing this idea, please?

 Herald

 
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Softwar       1/15/2007 2:01:44 PM



"http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070114-113534-6048r.htm"



Chinese general's U.S. visit for nuke talks deferred

By Bill Gertz

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

January 15, 2007



China's military is delaying the U.S. visit of its strategic nuclear forces commander despite a promise by Chinese President Hu Jintao last year that the general would hold talks with the U.S. Strategic Command leader.



A major worry of defense officials is a proposal being worked on by some U.S. government consultants who would like Gen. Cartwright to offer to share nuclear-weapons technology with China during the Jing visit. The arms-control officials fear that unless U.S. "nuclear sustainability" know-how is shared, China will expand its nuclear arsenal or resume underground nuclear tests.

"This has to be stopped," said one defense official opposed to the plan, which has not reached senior policy-makers in the Pentagon or the Strategic Command.


Can you supply a specific name to go with the idiot pushing this idea, please?

 Herald


Wish I could - the Gertz article does not name names.  However, this is similar to proposals made during the Clinton years by such wizards as Bill Perry (Sec Def). 
 
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Softwar       1/16/2007 9:49:38 AM
 
 
I am told the Gen. Cartwright is no fool when it comes to the PLA and not likely to approve any such scheme as share nuclear weapons secrets.  This is one of the dumbest ideas ever - but then again DoD Sec. William Perry felt that sending super computers to PLA nuke weapons labs was a great idea.
 
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AdvanceAustralia    Mad   1/16/2007 2:47:09 PM
Suicidal. It would be easier for the US to nuke itself. People who suggest such things need urgent psychiatric attention.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       1/16/2007 11:53:19 PM
And this is occurring during the BUSH administration, not Clinton.  Obviously these consultants have some business interests in China and handing over nuke tech would seal some deals.  
 
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Softwar    Engagement - read "Appeasement"   1/17/2007 8:59:42 AM

And this is occurring during the BUSH administration, not Clinton.  Obviously these consultants have some business interests in China and handing over nuke tech would seal some deals.  
 
The "engagement" crowd in DC is not party specific.  The bill that passed through Congress giving China permanent favored trading status was Republican sponsored and passed by a Republican dominated Capital Hill.  Engagement theory works on the basis that if we are nice and trade freely with China - it will eventually become benevolent and free.
Ironically, the opposition is also not party specific.  I frequently work with both conservative national security specialists and very liberal human rights advocates.  Both share a common view of Beijing.  They see trade deals as a means for the warlords to solidify their respective Swiss bank accounts and add more advanced weaponry to the PRC arsenal.
 
However, the concept - spouted by many China supporters - is that by sharing weapons technology with China we reduce the chance of war.  The backbone of this is a theory that the PLA is more likely to fight if they feel inferior.  This view goes completely counter to all military history but it has dominated DC before.  Never underestimate the ability of stupid ideas to become policy.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       1/18/2007 2:23:59 PM
"The backbone of this is a theory that the PLA is more likely to fight if they feel inferior."

You might suggest that those people read up on the "Center of the World" and "Gates of Heaven" facts regarding China.
 
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HIPAR       3/5/2007 10:04:12 PM
Why not.  We have given them everything else!

---  CHAS

 
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tigertony    Why give them?   3/6/2007 9:20:11 AM
 
 
   Hey is it just me or has someone from Mr Bill's day "Forgotten that Mr Lee already did share our high tech and nuke tech"?. So since they already are deploying new SLBM and ICBM with Mr Lee's help "Why not just sell them the plans and give the profits to real Americans"?.
 
  Well with Mr Bill's cabinet waiting 3 years to report a major breech in National Security "They have already destroyed us!" so "We may as well live it up on CCP!". Actually this is not funny, and someone should be shot, starting with Mr Lee, and on down the line of each of Mr Bill's Cabinet, till we get to the end!.
 
                                                              tigertony
 
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RockyMTNClimber    The Administration that keeps on Giving   3/6/2007 11:44:05 AM
Published in the Summer 1999 
Issue of the RNC's Rising Tide


The China Connection
Why Clinton-Gore Cannot Be Trusted with National Security

By Congressman Curt Weldon

             The Chinese espionage scandal and wholesale auctioning of sensitive technologies to China should erase any doubt in the minds of Americans that President Bill Clinton and Vice-President Al Gore are not to be trusted with our country's national security.  

             The dark legacy left by the Clinton-Gore Administration will place the lives of Americans at greater risk for generations to come.  Under the Clinton-Gore watch China stole classified thermonuclear weapons information, stole electromagnetic weapons technology that it can use to attack U.S. satellites and missiles, and stole classified research that can be used to detect and threaten our previously invulnerable nuclear submarines.  And that's just the tip of the iceberg.  

            But China did more than just steal information form the United States.  Through a complex system of influence peddling and campaign contributions, China was also able to obtain relaxations on exports on a wide variety of sensitive technologies.  In other words, the Clinton-Gore Administration gave away sensitive technologies to China in order to please big donors to the Democrat Party.     

             The relaxation of export controls, removal of national security agencies from the export approval process, and the dissolution of an international forum for controlling the transfer of military technologies under the Clinton-Gore Administration created an environment ripe for mistakes and abuse.  It was the equivalent of setting out the welcome mat for the Chinese to gain access -- completely legally -- to our most sensitive technologies.  

             And the Chinese certainly took advantage of the situation.  China -- which until 1996 had no high-performance computers to help design nuclear weapons -- had over 600 high performance computers in 1998, all originating from the United States.  The Chinese have also obtained access to precision machine tools that it diverted to build military aircraft, cruise missiles, and nuclear weapons.

               The seriousness of this matter is compounded by the fact that China is one of the world's worst proliferators of military technologies.  It is likely that this technology will soon find its way into the hands of countries like North Korea, Iran, and Iraq.

              Given the serious ramifications of the findings and recommendations of the bipartisan Cox Report, one would think that the American people could expect a serious, thoughtful response from the Clinton-Gore Administration.  Instead, all we have seen are Administration attempts to "spin" the report and attempts to convince the American public that the President and Vice-President bear no responsibility for what has happened.

                 But they do.  It was the Clinton-Gore Administration that eliminated FBI background checks at some of our most sensitive weapons laboratories.  It was the Clinton-Gore Administration that eliminated color-coded employee ID badges -- denoting clearance levels -- at classified Department of Energy laboratories.  It was the Clinton-Gore Administration that reinstated the security clearance of an employee being investigated for giving out sensitive and classified information.  And it was the Clinton-Gore Administration that allowed the exports of these sensitive technologies. 

                But President Clinton and Vice President Gore have spent more energy trying to cover their butts than closing the barn door.  The Administration has cracked down on the brave employees within the Departments of Defense and Energy who blew the whistle on the ineptitude of Clinton's political appointees and flawed policy toward China.  Meanwhile, the people who bear the blame for the damage to our national security are walking away scott-free.

                  It is important to note, however, that the recent scan

 
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