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Subject: US air force wants to arm space! your opinions
americanidol2    5/18/2005 4:25:27 AM
Air Force Seeks Bush's Approval for Space Arms By TIM WEINER, The New York Times (May 18) - The Air Force, saying it must secure space to protect the nation from attack, is seeking President Bush's approval of a national-security directive that could move the United States closer to fielding offensive and defensive space weapons, according to White House and Air Force officials. The proposed change would be a substantial shift in American policy. It would almost certainly be opposed by many American allies and potential enemies, who have said it may create an arms race in space. A senior administration official said that a new presidential directive would replace a 1996 Clinton administration policy that emphasized a more pacific use of space, including spy satellites' support for military operations, arms control and nonproliferation pacts. Any deployment of space weapons would face financial, technological, political and diplomatic hurdles, although no treaty or law bans Washington from putting weapons in space, barring weapons of mass destruction. A presidential directive is expected within weeks, said the senior administration official, who is involved with space policy and insisted that he not be identified because the directive is still under final review and the White House has not disclosed its details. Air Force officials said yesterday that the directive, which is still in draft form, did not call for militarizing space. "The focus of the process is not putting weapons in space," said Maj. Karen Finn, an Air Force spokeswoman, who said that the White House, not the Air Force, makes national policy. "The focus is having free access in space." With little public debate, the Pentagon has already spent billions of dollars developing space weapons and preparing plans to deploy them. "We haven't reached the point of strafing and bombing from space," Pete Teets, who stepped down last month as the acting secretary of the Air Force, told a space warfare symposium last year. "Nonetheless, we are thinking about those possibilities." In January 2001, a commission led by Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the newly nominated defense secretary, recommended that the military should "ensure that the president will have the option to deploy weapons in space." It said that "explicit national security guidance and defense policy is needed to direct development of doctrine, concepts of operations and capabilities for space, including weapons systems that operate in space." More From The Times · Sleepy Election Is Jolted by Evolution · Research Finds a High Rate of Expulsions in Preschool · French Lose a Holiday, but Many Take One Anyway The effort to develop a new policy directive reflects three years of work prompted by the report. The White House would not say if all the report's recommendations would be adopted. In 2002, after weighing the report of the Rumsfeld space commission, President Bush withdrew from the 30-year-old Antiballistic Missile Treaty, which banned space-based weapons. Ever since then, the Air Force has sought a new presidential policy officially ratifying the concept of seeking American space superiority. The Air Force believes "we must establish and maintain space superiority," Gen. Lance Lord, who leads the Air Force Space Command, told Congress recently. "Simply put, it's the American way of fighting." Air Force doctrine defines space superiority as "freedom to attack as well as freedom from attack" in space. The mission will require new weapons, new space satellites, new ways of doing battle and, by some estimates, hundreds of billions of dollars. It faces enormous technological obstacles. And many of the nation's allies object to the idea that space is an American frontier. Yet "there seems little doubt that space-basing of weapons is an accepted aspect of the Air Force" and its plans for the future, Capt. David C. Hardesty of the Naval War College faculty says in a new study. A new Air Force strategy, Global Strike, calls for a military space plane carrying precision-guided weapons armed with a half-ton of munitions. General Lord told Congress last month that Global Strike would be "an incredible capability" to destroy command centers or missile bases "anywhere in the world." Pentagon documents say the weapon, called the common aero vehicle, could strike from halfway around the world in 45 minutes. "This is the type of prompt Global Strike I have identified as a top priority for our space and missile force," General Lord said. The Air Force's drive into space has been accelerated by the Pentagon's failure to build a missile defense on earth. After spending 22 years and nearly $100 billion, Pentagon officials say they cannot reliably detect and destroy a threat today. "Are we out of the woods? No," Lt. Gen. Trey Obering, who directs the Missile Defense Agency, said in an interview. "We've got a long way
 
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EW3    RE:US air force wants to arm space! your opinions   5/18/2005 4:30:15 AM
It's already been done, so not much to talk about.
 
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displacedjim    RE:US air force wants to arm space! your opinions   5/18/2005 9:57:19 AM
Here's my opinion: "America! F*ck Yeah!" Coming out on DVD soon. Displacedjim
 
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Herc the Merc    RE:US air force wants to arm space! your opinions   5/18/2005 12:29:45 PM
Makes sense, but there is one problem with that- China Russia India France Israel Iran Pakistan NK will follow. We cannot achieve much by arming space, but the others could do a lot of damage.
 
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ShallowThinker1    RE:US air force wants to arm space! your opinions   5/18/2005 12:48:40 PM
Herc, ...China Russia India France Israel Iran Pakistan NK will follow.... You seem to suppose that none of these nations will make moves into space armaments if the US doesn't. That seems one heck of a bad bet to me. If the journey is inevitable, and I am capable of doing so, I would much prefer to lead than to follow. Arms will be stationed in space. I'd rather the US lead. If others are inclined to follow, well, that will be just additional factors to add into the various calculations.
 
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Herc the Merc    RE:US air force wants to arm space! your opinions   5/18/2005 12:51:48 PM
I doubt that Shallow, also if other countries follow we are in serious trouble. Space based weapons are easy and far more destructive. A simple Missile with a non-explosive payload coming from orbit down to earth can wipe out a couple of city block. And no Fall out.
 
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EW3    RE:US air force wants to arm space! Herc ST1 is on   5/18/2005 12:57:03 PM
To start with we are already there. Communication satellites made space a military frontier. It's gone way past that since that time. And yes, I want the USofA to lead the way. Why should we wait for other countries to catch up with us. That is plain stupid. That goes back to the orginal post and the quote from a Clintonista, "a 1996 Clinton administration policy that emphasized a more pacific use of space," Meanwhile the NKs and Iran were building nukes. Liberals in the US have nothing but a record of being wrong.
 
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Herc the Merc    RE:US air force wants to arm space! Herc ST1 is on   5/18/2005 1:01:05 PM
EW3 I am not questioning that we should be there with Lasers & etc & etc. But Just answer this point - if we go up there then there is no stopping NK. All they need to do is to toss a big rock down from space. Did you realize what u just did??
 
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EW3    RE:US air force wants to arm space! Herc ST1 is on   5/18/2005 1:12:39 PM
NK signed an agreement to not build nuclear weapons. The North Vietnamese signed an a greement to leave South Vietnam alone. Get my drift? We need to go forward as fast as possible with any space based systems we deem necessary. Only a fool believes that the bad guys won't.
 
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Herc the Merc    RE:US air force wants to arm space! Herc ST1 is on   5/18/2005 1:16:41 PM
Ok EW3- if thats what you want, but just remember we will no longer be a superpower (militarily ie). NK & Iran will have 500 plus space based air to ground missile with just rocks for warheads, enuff to wipe out North America at the flip of a switch. No nukes needed. I prefer to be the top dog. And could you explain to me what space based systems are our enemies putting up in Space without our knowledge-- a proton gun??
 
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Herc the Merc    On a lighter note---   5/18/2005 1:20:00 PM
"But General Lord said such problems should not stand in the way of the Air Force's plans to move into space. "Space superiority is not our birthright, but it is our destiny," he told an Air Force conference in September. "Space superiority is our day-to-day mission. Space supremacy is our vision for the future." What about the space between his ears??
 
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