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Subject: top 10 tanks in the world!!!
Hong-Xing    8/12/2003 9:07:05 AM
i think it would be this t-90 (rus) m1a2 (usa) t-98 (chi) m1a1 (usa) Challenger 2 (bri) t-95 black hawk (rus) al khalid (chi) merkeva (bra) arjun (ind) t-90||| (chi)
 
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Kozzy    RE:Top 10 Tanks   2/8/2004 12:49:30 PM
I would disagree with you Bazos on rating the T-80 in Chechnya(sp). How well a tank stands up to infantry attack is very key in rating a tank
 
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InFuSeR    RE:Top 10 Tanks   2/8/2004 4:41:32 PM
I dont know why alot of peeps downgarde the MK4, its a heavy slow tank like the C2 just as good as the top 5 tanks out there. Leopard 2, m1a2, mk4, C2 it doesnt matter if its better its what tank sees who first they all have powerfull guns and can tko each other.
 
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Kozzy    RE:Top 10 Tanks   2/8/2004 6:10:04 PM
Yes, they can all take each other out, its just a question of who can do it faster and with more ease.
 
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InFuSeR    RE:Top 10 Tanks   2/8/2004 7:09:00 PM
Most likey the M1A2 SEP Most people downgrade the m1a2 b/c of its engine which i dont think its a downgrade b/c its quiet.Other then that i think it the king..
 
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mike_golf    M1 Turbine   2/8/2004 10:09:22 PM
There are three reasons why the turbine was chosen for the M1 instead of a diesel. 1. More horsepower for the weight/size of the engine. This allowed the weight and space that would have otherwise been allocated to the engine to be used for other purposes. This is very crucial in the engineering trade offs that have to be made when designing a tank. 2. Excellent acceleration compared to diesel engines. When you are talking about a 60 ton tank (weight of the original M1) that is intended to be used offensively this is an important consideration. 3. Last, but not least, it is quiet. This is a big deal on the defense. Infantry can often locate tanks in the defense just by using listening posts. This is much more difficult to do with the M1. It is also significantly quieter on the move. The first time that the M1 took part in Reforger in Germany in the early 80's the Germans nicknamed it "Whispering Death". The tank was very quiet, very fast and very deadly and took them by surprise. The trade off made was the very high fuel consumption levels of the engine.
 
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oldbutnotwise    RE:M1 Turbine   2/9/2004 1:51:10 AM
the problem now is that you can get a diesel that is as powerfull, wieghs less, is smaller and is nearly as quiet and is a lot more fuel economic ie the europak german diesel 1500hp the same as the turbine fits a m1 but allows for the on board fuel to be doubled and with the current ability to silence isnt much noiser think combined with a vast reduction in heat signature is likely to spell the end of the turbine.
 
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bazos    RE:Top 10 Tanks   2/9/2004 2:44:02 AM
Sorry i forgot MerkvaIII which is coming in the third position so i recalled this: 1-M1A2SEP 2-challengerIIE 3-MerkvaIII here are there the best tanks in the world they went to the combat they proven what are able to do in terms of survey and capacity of killing others tanks
 
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oldbutnotwise    RE:Top 10 Tanks   2/9/2004 6:45:43 AM
It would be a brave tanker to choose a Merkva even a mark 4 over a leopard, leclerc, chally 1 or M1A1. its armour i understand is not of the chobbam type, this alone drops it back into the league of the T tanks
 
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Couac_Attack    RE:Top 10 Tanks   2/9/2004 8:01:12 AM
Many here prefer to place the "battle proven" before the rest, i know that nobodu can do a serious ranking, even tankers because they dont know a lot foreign tanks.... But about the ChallII/M1A2 kills, it has just been some old T-72 with poor crew with no air support. in this condition, the AMX-30 B2 has worked well against T-72 during the 1rst Gulf War, but i will never say that it can enter in the Top 10 competition, and i know that the Leclerc can do largely better. So to count the on a poor test isnt a good way to judge a tank.
 
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Kozzy    RE:Top 10 Tanks   2/9/2004 11:15:51 AM
The Merkava Mk 1 an d 2 has shrugged off RPGs Saggers and shots from T-72s and kept going, The exact composition of the armor is classified but it involves spaced laminated steel.
 
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