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Subject: Not All Israeli Weapons Will Save Your Ass
SYSOP    12/3/2012 5:12:41 AM
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tudas_ka    Hamas still terrorist organization!   12/3/2012 5:35:28 AM
"The Israeli enemy was a terrorist organization (Hamas)"?  Hamas still listed as terrorist by Israel and the United States!  Yeah 0bama administration might have unlist it but no matter what Hamas still a terrorist organization.
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trenchsol       12/3/2012 8:01:36 AM
There are many countries with few uninhabited areas. I was in UK, in England, more precisely. There are many small towns, settlements and estates between large cities. The same goes for northern Italy, more or less. From what I've heard the same situation is in Germany, too, for example.
So, most of the missiles fired would hit something or someone. There is nothing to calculate....
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vahitkanig       12/3/2012 2:11:30 PM
It  seems  Israel  exaggerate  the  stiuation,trying  to impress U.S.
System  works againts unguided  rocket,mortars not for guided missiles.
&&04;ron Dome  okey  for harrasing  Gazans but  not for  export.
I dont  know why  &&04;srael  likes  throw-catch  game  with  Palestenians.
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Shirrush    trenchsol   12/3/2012 3:26:19 PM
Not true. Population density-wise, even Southern Israel has nothing to envy to Southern England or the Italian Po Valley. A 122mm artillery rocket bursting 200m from a house will probably cause no damage, except for some broken glass. Even in between Padova and Milano, as in between Ashkelon and Ashdod, the distances between settlements, e.g., farmers' fields, are wider than that. When the hama"ssholes fired at the Tel Aviv Metropolitan Area, and the authorities announced that the rocket had fallen "in an empty area", facebook went abuzz with cynical comments. Most had to do with the terrorist weapons being so accurate and sophisticated that they can find what most of us had been unsuccessfully looking for for a very long time. After a while, it became known that the said rocket (Iranian-made Fajr 5, 330mm, 125kg warhead of which 90kg of explosives) had crashed at sea. Oh well.
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tudas_ka       12/3/2012 7:16:19 PM

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trenchsol       12/4/2012 10:24:17 AM
Shirrush, are you trying to say that missiles destined for relatively less populated areas are allowed to pass through uninterrupted ? Only the most populated areas were defended ? Is that what you are saying ?
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Reactive       12/4/2012 11:57:01 AM
Given finite assets there'll always have to be prioritising - that will be weighted against population density and settlement distribution. 
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davidbenami       12/4/2012 6:12:36 PM
Actually, the Tamir missile is a fascinating component of the system. Based on what I have seen, this is actually a liquid fueled rocket, with all of the advantages, such as variable thrust...fine motor control, et al....but also with most of the advantages usually associated with solid fuel motors.
To my knowledge, almost nobody has managed to keep liquid fueled rockets on 'Standby' with any reliability. This has always been the trade off of liquid fuel vs solid fuel, readiness vs. versatility. Solid Fuel rockets are always ready but thrust vectoring, throttling, is almost impossible. Liquid fuel rockets are usually only fueled at the moment of readiness and often require a half hour or more to prepare...solid fuel rockets are always ready but you have very little or no control over thrust
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Reactive       12/4/2012 9:39:52 PM

Solid fuel does not prohibit thrust vectoring - it's just slightly more nozzle-specific because you can't gimbal the combustion chamber. Hybrid rocket (solid fuel + liquid oxidiser) designs allow for throttling but this can be achieved (at least in a pre-planned flight-profile sense) on solid rockets by adjusting the shape of the combustion chamber or altering the composition of the solid fuel itself along its length.
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Reactive    urgh   12/4/2012 9:41:32 PM
Forum software had a shit again, 
First part (now lost) said that I find it hard to believe the system is liquid fuelled, is there any documentation? 
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