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Subject: Force recon and Special ops .A Great thing!
deeprecon1    2/24/2004 3:06:47 PM
I was very pleased to hear the Marine Corps had changed its tune. For the longest time Marines in this line of work were told "you are a elite force you don't need to be part of any special ops command." I heard that for 6 years .... I left the Corps for a wife and family not to mention being sent to a "B" recruiting or drill field ...no thanks! I spent 3 years ramping up training to fight the good fight. Well as I understand it now you can be a career Force Recon Marine and not have to leave the teams. I never did understand why the Uncle Sam would spend X amount of $ on me and then tell me 2 years later I had to go recruit 17 year old kids for a year. I see this change going on now and regret ever leaving for civilian life. All in all, I see this as a step in the right direction to keep retention numbers high in this field. For all us formers this is the best news ever to come from command. Semper Fi 1st Force Recon Co 1 MEF 8654 88-94 5th. Platoon Team 2 AKA " spider Monkey"
 
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raymond    RE:Force recon and Special ops .A Great thing!   2/29/2004 12:47:34 AM
While I'm certainly happy for you, and your friends, and my old friend Sgt Vandegrift, I have to wonder what the Corps gets out of it. Since USSOCOM is a sort of "roach motel" for SOF types, why do we want to pay the bill and lose those people to a purple command forever? Once there, they cease to be tasked by either FMF or fleet, thus losing whatever investment we was made. The original justification for re-starting Force Recon was that highly trained Marines would return to the FMF to teach those skills to the grunts. Unfortunately, once he's enjoyed the relative freedom and privlege of SOF duty, it's very hard to interest him in a battalion.
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:Force recon and Special ops .A Great thing!   2/29/2004 4:17:37 PM
>>The original justification for re-starting Force Recon was that highly trained Marines would return to the FMF to teach those skills to the grunts. Unfortunately, once he's enjoyed the relative freedom and privlege of SOF duty, it's very hard to interest him in a battalion << Let them stay until their knees and/or backs start to give out, or their wives start packing their bags (though, admittedly, this doesn't stop some . . . ), and some will be happy to go back to the line units to finish out their 20 years -- or at least that's how it worked out for some former ranger battalion types I've met along the way . . .
 
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raymond    RE:Force recon and Special ops .A Great thing!   2/29/2004 7:06:24 PM
Good, plan, up to a point. Rangers have limited promotion potential, but once an "operator" goes to USSOCOM, promotion potential improves vastly, and he can get high enough that his back and knees are no longer in jeopardy.
 
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timon_phocas    RE:Force recon and Special ops .A Great thing!   9/14/2004 11:29:13 PM
Howdy Guys I heard/read that the Corps finally accepted the necessity for dedicated Special Ops units because 1. Recon and Force Recon troops were being recruited by SEAL Teams and Delta Force. So the Corps was losing them anyway. 2. The current war requires more Spec War operators and the Corps wanted to be part of it. Semper Fi 1st Platoon C Company $th Recon BN (best scout troop I was ever part of...)
 
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