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Subject: Clipping the Osprey's wings?
flamingknives    12/14/2005 11:21:50 AM
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/12/major-cuts-scheduled-for-v22-osprey-program/index.php About 10 Osprey's worth, I think. Opinions? Are there likely to be further cuts in the future?
 
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Galrahn    RE:Clipping the Osprey's wings?   12/14/2005 11:38:20 AM
FY 2006 Defense Budget still being debated in Congress (has not passed yet) already cut the V-22 program by 1.2 billion between 2006 and 2010. This is an additional 1.1 billion over 5 years. According to some press reports, the reported 2007 budget plan would cut the program by an additional 10 percent from 2007 to 2011. http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/13396106.htm More news on topic: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=v-22&btnG=Search+News
 
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doggtag    Clipping the Osprey's wings? What about the nation's capabilities overall?   12/14/2005 8:35:43 PM
-"FY 2006 Defense Budget still being debated in Congress (has not passed yet) already cut the V-22 program by 1.2 billion between 2006 and 2010. This is an additional 1.1 billion over 5 years. According to some press reports, the reported 2007 budget plan would cut the program by an additional 10 percent from 2007 to 2011." OK. Now consider how much money has been spent over the years just to keep the program alive, often in the middle of the aircraft's greatest developmental failures (how many crashes have killed how many crews and Marines?) And now the lickbags decide, "OK, we're so close to fielding it, with most of the flaws and bugs fixed well enough, so f**k it! Let's start killing the program slowly now." And to think the F/A-22 was delayed for about 10 years, too. This is exactly why people SHOULDN'T KEEP VOTING FOR THE SAME INCUMBENT every election day! How many programs that would have been very beneficial to the military have been delayed, trimmed, and cut outright by the SAME ELECTED OFFICIALS over a period of a couple decades, or more? Time to get those good-for-nothin' incompetent lickbags out of office before they cripple this country any further. I wonder how many Veterans' Benefits they're gonna try going after, next?
 
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ArtyEngineer    RE:Clipping the Osprey's wings? What about the nation's capabilities overall?   12/14/2005 11:41:27 PM
You can interpret this cut in another way, all the tech problems have been overcome, all milestones met and the money set aside and budgeted for against a worse case scenario not now needed.
 
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doggtag    RE:Clipping the Osprey's wings? What about the nation's capabilities overall?   12/15/2005 12:18:53 AM
Can't say I'd agree with that, AE. Look how much money the US gov't shelled out for Hurricane Relief this year, all without vastly cutting into other programs to do so. During times of such severe national crisis, there always seems to be some fund set aside specifically for that scenario, and we don't have to sacrifice tanks or aircraft production to get them. I just think it's so totally f'ed up how the US government, almost like clockwork, is notorious for spending billions on a project it swears up and down we need, only to severely cut or cancel it altogether after everything is done in testing and it's just weeks or a few months away from LRIP. Crusader and Comanche are just 2 programs that come to mind. The programs that will eventually fulfil their roles (NLOS-C and the "new" Bell ARH, based on an evolved, decades-old airframe design) are vastly inferior in several ways to the systems that were axed. I wonder how many service-related deaths can actually be directly attributed to the shortsightedness of politicians cutiing program funding and the troops not getting better, more promising and capable equipment sooner. But then again, considering they get to wallow in the safety of their congressional offices while men and women in uniform are dying everyday, some of us aren't buying the little acts they put on acting like they genuinely care about the military and veterans outside of just using it to collect campaign contributions to keep defense-related jobs in their districts.
 
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ArtyEngineer    RE:Clipping the Osprey's wings? What about the nation's capabilities overall?   12/15/2005 12:29:14 AM
I dont actually subscribe to that interpretation either, I was just saying you "could" interpret cuts in than manner.
 
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