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Subject: Vietnam Vets and PTSD
GOP    3/8/2006 11:57:42 PM
Why is it that so many Vietnam vets have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder compared to vets of other wars, most notably WW2? In WW2, even more friendlies died, even more enemies were killed, etc...but most WW2 vets do not or never had PTSD, while I would argue that most Vietnam vets do. I have know two Vietnam vets, and both of them have forms of PTSD. One of them passed on recently, but he was a drunk (not trying to disrespect the dead at all) caused from depression from the Vietnam war (he also told me and my friend that he had violent nightmares where he went back inside 'Nam and saw his friends die or where he killed the enemy)...and the other never talked about Vietnam at all and his wife, who was best friends with my Mom, told us that he also had very bad nightmares, he would sometimes cry over what he saw in flashbacks, and would react sometimes react kind of violently if you walked up behind him without him knowing you were there (very weird). I say they had PTSD, but I am no doctor so I can't be sure, but they seem to have the symptoms from what I have read about it. Also, if this is in the wrong place, I apologize. I am just curious as to why it is and I kind of feel like the government has hung them out to dry by not providing them timely mental care after the war.
 
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JFKY       3/7/2008 2:11:58 PM
A good book to read is Stolen Valor by JD Burkett.  He makes the point that many vet's don't have PTSD, and that "PTSD" is as much a Veterans Affairs boondoggle as it is a real condition.  I realize that this is going to grump some folks off, but I throw it out there.
 
First off, PTSD is much akin to ADHD, it's in the eye of the beholder....as only 1 in 11 Vietnam vets saw combat, can it be said a "lot" of vet's have it?  Are we to believe that being at Ton Son Nhut and seeing firefights in the distance or knowing that at irregular intervals 122mm rockets might impact is enough to generate PTSD?  Some questions to ponder.  Realize PTSD employs counselors and provides line items in bureaucratic budgets.  It's to Veterans Affairs financial benefit to see as much PTSD as is possible.  Add to the common belief that Vietnam vet's are "broken toys" and suddenly PTSD is big business, the Crazy Vet works well in public and Leftist perceptions of troops and as I say, makes Veterans Affairs money.
 
 
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rayott34       3/7/2008 6:20:16 PM
Hey GOP;

Did you ever end up joining the millitary; or are you still going through school?  I remember a couple of years ago you started some threads where you were basicly looking for info regarding getting into the service.



 
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GOP       3/8/2008 1:55:35 AM

Hey GOP;

Did you ever end up joining the millitary; or are you still going through school?  I remember a couple of years ago you started some threads where you were basicly looking for info regarding getting into the service.




Im a senior in HS this year, but Im most likely joining the Ga National Guard after I graduate and getting into a Abn Ranger unit (not gonna name the specific unit, but its very easy to find). Actually, I credit Horsesoldier with finding the unit I plan on joining (you basically contact their recruiter and get a slot in their unit), he has always been a major help with me on this forum. He's the man.
Im stoked about it all. I've wanted to serve for a long time, and physically/mentally prepped for a long time for it. So to actually be so close to doing it is exciting. There's a long road ahead, especially considering I'll have AB school and possibly Ranger in my contract, but Im looking forward to it.
 
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