You make some really good points. You guys are absolutely awesome, there is no doubt about that, but who is to say that yall are better than the US Army? I mean, look at what our forces did in Afghanistan (an SOF and USAF show), in Iraq (a total force operation), our Marines did in Fallujah (1 & 2), just to name a few. Honestly, I don't really care who is the better Army, because I have no real attachment to who is better (I know some real doofuses who are in the US Army, I mean some real bozos who are borderline retarded). Personally, I think that our USMC is very close in standards to your Army, and I think that our SOF are almost identical. Sure, our Army infantry may not be as well trained as yours (on paper), but they win (more like dominate) the battle space. And when things get real ugly, they always grit their teeth, spit out blood, and get the job done (by winning). It kind of reminds me of the quote: Just win, baby.

 

So, the Armies in the running for the "Strategypage best trained Army award":

 

Australia

Britain

Canada

France

Germany

USA

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I have also heard great things about the South Koreans (supposedly EXTREMELY tough), Japanese, and Singaporean.

 

 

Having served in the British Army of cours eI'm biased but its a whole hearted YES, followed by the Israelis

 

I've trained with the American forces and they were terrible, I have a mate in the Royal marines and he worked with his US counterparts and (excuse my french) said they were sh*t.

 

They're too into their Gucci technology and gadgets and cannot survive and functions with the basics, when I was in Phase 1 training in the british Army I trained with 2 dutch guys and lad from Sierra leone and another from Zimbabwe, these lads paid money to come over and train with the british knowing it was the best, its universally known and recognised by governments all voer the world that British has the best trained force.

 

One aspect that has been important in britains success is it 'EXPERIENCE' Britain ruled a 1/4 of the world for 3 centuries and they way they maintained that empire was through their Navy, the British have always had an illustrious and proud naval history defeating the Spanish Armada outnumbered at a ratio of 3:1 for example, the best sailors are always British like Drake and nelson.

 

We've had the biggest empire known to man, we contained 400 million Indians with just 100,000 soldiers, we defeated the Spanish Armada, napolean, The Romans on 2 occasions before their successful third nvasion

 

we have experience in Trench warfare WW1, Urban warfare Northern ireland, loads of experience in peacekeeping over in countries like Bosnia and Kosovo, the Military Police is one of the greatest regiments in the world (along with my Engineers ;))

 

the USA has existed for little more than 200 years, has no experience in Urban warfare which is why they're in deep in Iraq, Americas philosophy dealing in war and peacekeeping is to 'hit them with a big stick' and if that doesnt work 'get a bigger one'

 

US patriotism leads them to believe that they have the best military, US attitude makes them think they have the greatest everything. Being patriotic and supporting your troops is great but dont insult me and my country's history by saying you have the best military, and before anyone comes out with the inevitable 'we saved ur arse in WW2' let me remind you

 

Who won the battle of Britain to gain air superiority??

 

who ruled the waves with the best navy??

 

who defeated the axis forces in Africa??

 

who invented radar??

 

who uncovered the Enigma decoding device??

 

all MASSIVE factors in deciding that war

 

yes america did help a lot in the war effort especially since france had surrended readily as usual and we were left to fight the war in the west alone. But all Allied forces missions and battles were spearheaded by the british

I can promise you that USMC Recon is not sh*t, that is completely laughable. They did one h*ll of a job in both Afghanistan and Iraq, and they are universally thought of as professional and well trained. If you are going to take this a step further and say that our troops are sh*t, these please give examples...and lots of them. Here is an example of the RM's prowess: At the start of the OIF, a Navy SEAL platoon were tasked with taking over a Oil Platform and clearing the adjacent buildings/rooms, while the RM was to provide security and clear 1 building. The Iraqi's had layed Concertina wire all along the surrounding fields to prevent fast rope insertions and Parachute jumps. Well, the SEALs fastroped onto the concertina wire, managed to get out of it, and start to clear the buildings. The RM operators fastroped onto the concertina wire and most of them got tangled up, trapped, cut up, and they  were pretty much out of the game for around 20 minutes. The RM operators finally get into the fight and start taking fire from the building they were assigned. One of the excellent RM operators throws a grenade right on top of an Iraqi (with several seconds left on the fuse...I guess his great training taught him how to do this), and the Iraqi throws it in the middle of a group of RM operators...luckily for the RM operators, the grenade was a dud. If not, they would be in a world of hurt.

 

Considering how the US and Russia provided about 90% of the manpower, equipment, and supplies in the war, it ludicrious to think that the British contributed the most.

 

you should do a bit of research before quoting numbers like this cause they are way off base.  the british and the commonwealth piece of the war was a great deal larger than you seem to think.  the ones who really paid for beating the germans though were the russians and the bulk of the japs were facing the chinese or the british in se asia.  the damage done by the russians to the jap army in their last minute offensive probably rivalled the total number of army casualties inflicted by the US during the entire war.

Yimmy,  as far as the grenade issue, I disagree. You usually don't want to throw a grenade with an 8 second fuse right on top of a bad guy, as he is going to do what every person - smart or retarded - would do, throw it back.

Fallujah was a matter of clearing houses, we cleared thousands of buildings. Everyone hear seems to hold our airpower against us...why is this? We bombed the sh*t out of everyone because we didn't want to have to send our troops into buildings filled with the enemy. We don't go for style points, we go for maximal damage to the enemy at the safest cost.

 

Saying that our infantry isn't in the top 10 is ludicrous (you didn't say this), they have proven themselves in real world combat. Guys who haven't been there (this includes me) can say that "The insurgents aren't any good, this doesn't prove anything", you are all crazy for thinking that. It doesn't take much to shoot a group of soldiers at 100 yards when they don't know your there, much less 25 ft.

GOP, I don't hold American airpower against the American infantry, nothing of the sort.

 

I am just pointing out that Falluja was no mass street battle where the good guys came through - it was fought in very dubious means and I am certain many civillians were killed in the process.

GOP, I don't hold American airpower against the American infantry, nothing of the sort.

 

I am just pointing out that Falluja was no mass street battle where the good guys came through - it was fought in very dubious means and I am certain many civillians were killed in the process.