LAV or AGS for the Medium Brigade?

Michael K. Robel

© 2000

 

While the popular attention is fixed on the possibility of wheeled combat vehicles for the Army’s new medium brigades, tracked vehicles, such as the venerable M113 and the M8 Armored Gun System are also in combination.

 

Adopting the M113 and AGS would have some advantages in that the Army has lots of M113s still in use and a many spare parts for them.  The M8 was type classified and ready for production when it was cancelled and so is not readily available.  The main disadvantage of these two vehicles is they do not have common repair parts; something that hopefully buying a system of wheeled vehicles will provide.  Recent developments in the evaluation process indicate that a mixture of tracks and wheels may be acceptable or another series of vehicles, not necessarily of the same family.

 

This AAR takes a look at how the LAV based organization fares compared to an M113/AGS organization against a BTR-80/T-80 regiment.

 

Vehicle Comparison

 

At first glance, from a comparison of TACOPS lethality values, the observer would expect these two organizations to perform pretty much the same.  The M113/AGS lethality is 7471 points as compared to the LAV battalion’s 7377points.  (The scenario lethality values are slightly more due to the inclusion of a platoon of TOW launchers for each scenario.)

 

The significant difference here is the armament and armor of the LAV versus the M113 (The BFV and the BTR-80 are shown for comparison as well.)  Note the LAVIII is better protected than the M2.

 

Table 1Vehicle Armor

Vehicle

Front Armor

Side Armor

Rear Armor

M113

20

16

16

LAV III ISC (+)

60

40

35

AGS Level II Armor (KE)

90

50

40

LAV-AG[1]

30

22

7

M2A2

40

30

20

BTR-80

20

7

5

 


Table 2 Weapon Lethality

Weapon / Range

0 Meters

1250

2500

3000

M2 .50 cal

.95 / 30mm[2]

.60 / 23mm

.10 / 35mm

XXX

25mm

.95 / 70mm

.50 / 55mm (1500m)

.2 / 45mm

.05 / 40mm

TOW

.60 / 1400mm

.90 / 1400 mm (1500 m)

.90 / 1400mm

.90 / 1400mm

105mm[3]

.90 / 590 mm

.8 / 575mm (1500mm)

.50 /540mm

.15 / 520mm

14.5mm MG

.95 / 35mm

.66 / 20mm

.1 / 10mm

XXX

 

As can be seen, the LAV III is both better protected and more lethal than the M113 while the M8 Level II is much better armored and armed that the LAV-AG.  It is the M8’s armor and reach that makes the M8/M113 battalion more lethal, but overall, in spite of the lethality score, it seems the LAV organization is better protected and more lethal overall.

 

Organizational Comparison

 

For this test, the defensive scenario based on TF Gallagher was used again.  Just as for the “To dig or not to dig?” AAR, two scenarios were tested.  One in which the TF was dug in and one in which is was not.  Each was played five times and the scenario was ended when either the US force reached 50% lethality value or the OPFOR was reduced to 60%.  Except for substituting M113 variants and M8s for the different LAV variants, the two organizations were structured the same.  The OPFOR was a BTR-80/T-80 Regiment.

 

Without engineer support, the M113/AGS organization did rather poorly.  Its lethality, on average was diminished to an average of 3828 (47.6%) out of 8027, with its high being 3999 (49.8%) and its low being 3897 (48.5%).  On average it had 88 (48.3%) systems left out of 152, its high being 96 (52%), and its low being 73 (40.1%).  It attritted the OPFOR to an average lethality score of 9896.4 (46.4%) out of 21298 and reduced the total weapons systems to an average of 142 out of 344 (41.3%).

 

When dug in, the battalion’s performance was much better.  Average lethality at the end was 4932 (61.5%), with a high of 6208 (72%) and a low of 3895 (48.5%), while attriting the OPFOR to an average of 9135 (42.8).  (Table 3)

 

These results compare to an average LAV lethality value (without engineer support) of 4094 out of 8027 (51%) and attrited the OPFOR to 9330 out of 21298 (43%).  With Engineer support, the LAVs ended at an average of 4639 out of 8027 (57%) and attrited the OPFOR to 7687 / 21298 (36%). (Table 4)

 

 

 

Observations and Conclusions

 

 

Recommendations

 

 

Table 3 BLUFOR Lethality

 

Table 4 OPFOR Lethality versus Blue Organization

 

 



[1] In TACOPS, there is no LAV-III AG combination.  It can be assumed that should the US Army buy the LAV III, an Assault Gun version would have equal armor to the infantry support carrier.

[2] Probability of hit at the given range / armor penetration at the given range.

[3] While the AGS and the LAV-AG both have a 105mm gun, in TACOPS, the LAV-AG only has a 2500 meter range while the M8 has a 3000 meter range.  This difference is probably due to fire control.