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Subject: The European March to Dhimmitude Continues - Now it's Belgium's Turn with the 'Youths'
swhitebull    6/28/2006 3:39:18 PM
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ShallowThinker1    RE:The European March to Dhimmitude Continues - Now it's Belgium's Turn with the 'Youths'    6/28/2006 5:42:51 PM
What is there to say about this? Europe apparently has no interest in defending anything. Not their citizens, not people being murdered by the millions, not anything.
 
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flamingknives    RE:The European March to Dhimmitude Continues - Now it's Belgium's Turn with the 'Youths'    6/28/2006 6:00:59 PM
Yes, that's right, you can tell everything about a whole continent of disparate nation-states from an isolated incident. Also, clearly it's the work of the evil Muslim conspiracy, since the perpetrators were semi-darkies. As we all know, there are no European troops in Afghanistan or Iraq, let alone anywhere else, so they have no interest in fighting The War Against Terrorism. Well done for living down to your handle, as you have induced me to live down to mine. Muppet.
 
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Herc the Merc    RE:The European March to Dhimmitude Continues - Now it's Belgium's Turn with the 'Youths'    6/28/2006 6:04:46 PM
The Euro Neo-nazi youths and skinheads would put these guys to shame.
 
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Thomas    swhitebull    6/28/2006 6:06:19 PM
It is a problem in most european cities. The way to solve it to slap them in jail and expel them when sentence is served - if you haven't made the mistake of making them citisens. Strangely: I know that in Denmark the crime rate for immigrants is so high that crime is on the rise. This in spite of a falling crime rate among non-immigrants. Funny, the people that are proponents on tougher measures against immigrant are called racist and I don't know what; but 6 months later new measures are implemented. Our basic problem is that there is an establishment in the "DO GOOD"-industry that is feeling the pinch. Donations are down, government budget to them are cut, so they fear for their cosy overpaid jobs. They have taken to agressive marketing on the streets where professionel "fundraisers" pester people for donations - they usually back away from me, when I give them my Clint Eastwood glare. The main issue is that these socialists (they are not liberal) have lost: They have been proven wrong at every turn - and it hurts them that their lives are build on a lie. An example: Political correctness is now so that smoking ON TRAINPLATFORMS is prohibited. It treat this with the proper distain: As I stubbed my cigarette before entering a train, the train driver asked me if I hadn't seen the pictogram prohibiting smoking. I answered: "Oh yes; but I also saw the timetable!" Danish Rail is proverbial for its irregularity - the timetable is solely issue to base delays on.
 
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Thomas    FlamingKnives   6/28/2006 6:21:41 PM
The problem is that switebull is partly right: It IS in those circles the terrorists are recruited. I know for a fact that one of the reasons the Danish police has been reasonably successfull in preventing terrorism is because they devote considerable attention to these circles. Secondly: It is a general problem in most European major cities. What is not totally correct is that we are all passivily sliding into the abyss. One evening on the largest trainstation in Copenhagen - waiting for a train - I got a dirty look from a couple of sportstrained casually clothed young men. So I kept to the other side of the platform: Quite right, as the next train pulled in a couple of kids were slapped against the carridge - "STOP, POLICE" - Down on the platform: Then I overheard the officer say in his walkie-talkie in a tired voice: "Here is another, that doesn't know his own name."
 
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swhitebull    RE:The European March to Dhimmitude Continues - Now it's Belgium's Turn with the 'Youths'    6/29/2006 6:49:45 AM
...Yes, that's right, you can tell everything about a whole continent of disparate nation-states from an isolated incident. Also, clearly it's the work of the evil Muslim conspiracy, since the perpetrators were semi-darkies.... Well, cant say idiots like you didt have ample warning. Ask Theo van Gogh, the dead in ENgland and Spain. OR better yet, look at all of those signs threatening to cut of heads shown in Trafalgar Square for DARING to publish cartoons, or the riots in France (jsut kids out having fun, right?), or the Danish cartoonists that have had to go into hiding about the problem. Isolated incident? YOU can choose to either keep your head in the sand or up your ass, ignoring what is right in front of your eyes. But I forget, you're living down to your screen name. And living in an enlightened continent, free from the march to dhimmitude. Show me where Im wrong, rather than spouting crap or hurling insults. Where is your evidence that this ISNT happening, as England bows to political correctness, bans Piglet, and sticks their collective asses to the Muslim Council of Englands to sanitize AnYHTHING that might upset the so-called religion of Peace - affectionately known as ROP. Or do you love and admire that antiSemitic sycophant Ken Livingston? Care to tell the Swedish women who have been raped by 'misguided' youths because they offended those youth's "religious and moral sensibilities, and werre begging for rape? Or Honor killings across the continent that go against all EU laws? Or tell Ayaan Hirsi Ali that its all a fantasy of those of us with screen handles you dont like? swhitebull - cant say useful idiots werent warned. But then again, that is why that ARE useful idiots, because they remain willfully andf blissfully ignorant. It happened in 1936, its happening again. ......
 
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Thomas    swhitebull - swhitebull - SWHITEBULL - S W H I T E B U L L !!   6/29/2006 9:02:24 AM
I love your dedication and temper. Please read my post. Please read my thread! Your message has gotten through at places that matters. Am I anti-semitic? OK Am I critical of the Swedish system? OK The discussion proceeds easier if: 1. You press the keys in approximately the right order. 2. You stop fumbling with Caps Lock key. We ARE getting there. We need your dedication. OK???
 
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mustavaris    Swhitebull-   6/29/2006 9:34:10 AM
This is not an isolated incident, similar crimes are happening everywhere, even in Finland. Somalis are the problem here... People with Somalian citizenship make less than 0,1% of the population and yet they are convicted for 8 % of robberies and it gets worse; the youth are more probable to have Finnish citizenship and no one dares to say how many crimes people of Somali origin commit... Personally I fear two groups on the streets: skinheads and Somalis. Been twice at the receiving end of street violence when I have been attacked by surprise. BUT the change is coming, laws are getting harder, criminals sent away and Danish are leading the way with their recent convictions - hopefully itīs going to be followed by rest of us. Danes are at the front now and I must say that many of us support them with their whole hearts. Danish cause is ours, and they make good beer and cheese...barely can wait the next change to go to Copenhagen. You are right when you talking about that sheep attitude (my opinion on moderate Islam: link but you are too excited with your doom & gloom attitude. People of European nations are getting fed up with this political correctness and other crap. Itīs not an accident when right wing, patriotic and nationalist parties are gaining more and more, itīs not an accident when stricter laws are applied regardless of the cultural-relativist surrender whinies on the left and right and the centre. The peak of Islamic problem is not here, itīs going to get worse and worse for many years to come, but weīre heading for a confrontation where Muslims must decide whether they want to be radicals or accept basic western values of democracy and individualism. Cultural war against freedom of speech and our hard earned liberties has already begun, but most of us here and there on the other side of the pond do not recognize it as such... At the moment youīre at better position, but the general awareness isnīt much different as far as I know. We will fight when necessery but so far we havenīt been hurt enough. Masses are sedated by this multicultural tolerance crap, but itīs changing... I know people who are members of Finnish Leftist Union (socialists, not commies) who have said that weīre acting like sheeps who are being herded towards to slaughterhouse.. This includes my fiancee who is almost an archtype of pacifist green leftist. You may make the guess about the feelings on the right... So hold your horses and try to pay attention to some good signs too. Itīs not that bad as it looks.... partially itīs much worse, but on the other hand: there are plenty of good things too.
 
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Forest    RE:The European March to Dhimmitude Continues    6/29/2006 9:48:57 AM
"Show me where Im wrong, rather than spouting crap or hurling insults. Where is your evidence that this ISNT happening, as England bows to political correctness, bans Piglet, and sticks their collective asses to the Muslim Council of Englands yada yada yada" The head of state of the UK and various commonwealth countries had a party recently. Here's some nice piccies taken. Look out for the big, bright pink thing with strange, but comical, porcine features in the following pictures. link link Aren't they nice? Oh, BTW its The Muslim Council of BRITAIN. To save you time (trawling through the Internet can be so tiresome), I provided you with a link to help you form a thorough and robust rebuttle: link
 
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Thomas    RE:Swhitebull-mustavaris   6/29/2006 12:14:00 PM
Plus we produce pork en masse. My wifes attitude is leftish too, and her reaction to the expulsion order after served time: "Damn it, why can't we deport some of the danish scumbags as well." Swhitebull: "Our resolve and arteries are hardening!" I don't know if we lead the way, as there has been quite some luck in this case, because the procecution has bewen able to lift the burden of proof - and it is the burden: "beyond reasonable doubt". I know the police has put in some very hard work - checking mobile phone records to prove the defendants lied about their whereabouts - among other things. We are lucky in this case there was no religious card to play. Teh discrimination against islam in Denmark is a baseless accusation from the fundamentalists. I for one has never cared if the women forgot to remove the towel - womens fashion has always been beyond me. But this is just the tip of the iceberg, the fact that the girl dared her life at all is an indication of a changed attitude in the population. What we now need is safe-houses for girls/boys in a similar situation.
 
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Herc the Merc    European example--French riots   6/29/2006 12:34:50 PM
Moslem youth rioted after years of neglect--Christian Paris erupetd instantly after new job bill introduced---Russian Nazi gangs actually beat up Jews and darkies-brutally--Alcohol results in more wife abuse than what any moslem did to the cause of wife beating. Accept it -Islam is the only way to peace. Resistance is futile.
 
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swhitebull    RE:The European March to Dhimmitude Continues    6/29/2006 1:13:02 PM
... love your dedication and temper. Please read my post. Please read my thread! Your message has gotten through at places that matters. Am I anti-semitic? OK Am I critical of the Swedish system? OK The discussion proceeds easier if: 1. You press the keys in approximately the right order. 2. You stop fumbling with Caps Lock key. We ARE getting there. We need your dedication. OK??? .... Thomas - we are in accord on this. My purpose is to sound the clarion wakeup call for those who havent heard it yet - you and Mustavaris have. Demographic birth trends clearly favor middle east immigrants over Europeans, which have been declinng for decades. Political institutions have been under assault, as have been cherished freedom of speech rights - either thru "politically-correct" laws inhibiting free speech (England is a prime example) or thru frivolous or not-so-frivolous lawsuits brought by "offended" muslims against those who dare to reveal the underside of the culture and religion (look at what is happening to Oriana Fallaci in Italy). Forest - ty for the links. I dont have time now to hit them, but will do so this evening. Just so you know, i come from a POV that has seen what happens when good men and women do nothing, either from fear, ignorance or willful compliance. I lost half my family at Treblinka. swhitebull - never again .
 
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Forest    RE:The European March to Dhimmitude Continues    6/29/2006 2:00:56 PM
SWHITEBULL - PLEASE READ MY POST WITH AN ENORMOUS DOSE OF SARCASM! Then see if you want to thank me. We are not running scared in 'England' that we ban Piglet or anything else to appease Muslims. We are just as determined as you to defeat Islamic terrorism and bigotry, but as FK tried to explain, cherry picking isolated incidences from the Internet or the tabloids does not give the whole picture. ?I lost half my family at Treblinka.? For that I am truly sorry ? that?s appalling, but persecuting ALL for the crimes of others is also unjust.
 
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flamingknives    RE:The European March to Dhimmitude Continues    6/29/2006 2:06:26 PM
swhitebull: Check the links before offering thanks. I rather suspect that Thomas is extracting the urine. The second I actually see some of what the Scary Mail reports with my own eyes, I'll act or speak out against it. To date, with first-hand experience of the UK, I can safely say that I haven't. I can see nothing new and nothing ethnically related in gangs of violent youths. Perhaps because I haven't got an agenda to read into it. It does have a certain sense of irony that someone with family lost to ethnic prejudace is so keen to see it perpetrated against another, not-so-ethnically different group. Perhaps if the Jew was the bogey-man of the early 20th century, then the Muslim fulfills the same role at the start of the 21st. I'm not going to defend violent gangs or individuals claiming justification on the basis of their religion. Criminals will try any dodge going, so it's just a matter of not letting them. 'Honour killings' need to be decried like any other murder, but I'm not going to pretend that it doesn't happen in other sections of the population. If you want to take your battle to the street, all you need is a nice simple symbol (red armband with dodgy window is already taken) and take your counter-mob out to petrol bomb things. It sounds like what you're advocating. I don't think that Red Ken is particularly anti-semitic or sycophantic. In fact, as I recall it, the accusations of anti-semitism came from a third party being outraged on someone else's behalf. Much like the "Insidious creep of Islam-favouring political correctness" you rail against. Feh.
 
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Forest    FlamingKnives   6/29/2006 2:26:11 PM
"Check the links before offering thanks. I rather suspect that Thomas is extracting the urine." FK did you mean Thomas or Forest. I just want to make it abundantly clear that that link to the BNP was not serious.
 
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