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Subject: What Muslims need to know about Jews and Christans.
Pakistani    3/16/2002 8:22:22 PM
"Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD and (2) believes in the Hereafter, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord; they have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve." [Quran 5:69, 2:62] Shocking isnt it... Jews and Christans have nothing to fear from Allah as long as they lead a righteous life. Go slap that on your local Mullahs face and watch him try to make some excuse or another about how it means something different about what it quite obviously says. The funny thing about Religon is that it reserves the right to define every word.
 
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evlstu    RE:What Muslims need to know about Jews and Christans.   3/17/2002 2:41:28 AM
Well, paki, you just stumbled onto the key problem with Islam. The problem isn't ISLAM (no matter what some would say); the problem is ARAB NATIONALISM. The arab nationalist can and do use religon as a means of recruiting and self-justification. I will say this though. It has been over SIX MONTHS and I have yet to hear any mullah or any other muslim religious leader condemn the attacks on Sept. 11. A few actually condoned them and quite few condemned the Allied offensive in Afganistan. To me this just backs up my point, arab nationalists believe if your not arab, your life isn't worth anything. OTHERS will see it as backing up their point, that muslims believe that if your not a muslim your life is not worth anything. Personally, I believe the former point is true. My reason for this is that NON-arab muslims have a much greater tendency to get along peacefully with non-muslims than arabs do AND ARAB muslims tend to treat NON-arabs just as badly as they treat non-muslims. I also base this opinion (and it is MY opinion) on personnal experience. All the arab-muslims I've dealt with were assholes. Most NON-arab muslims, inculding a few Turks, were perfectly normal people.
 
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evlstu    evlstu to Pakistani   3/17/2002 2:45:59 AM
Oops, I meant to say Pakistani not "paki". SORRY
 
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Pakistani    RE:evlstu to Pakistani   3/17/2002 7:05:55 PM
"Oops, I meant to say Pakistani not "paki". SORRY" Its okay most people dont even realise its a slur. Are you from england?
 
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Pakistani    RE:What Muslims need to know about Jews and Christans.   3/17/2002 7:10:43 PM
"It has been over SIX MONTHS and I have yet to hear any mullah or any other muslim religious leader condemn the attacks on Sept. 11" Not true, if you live in the So-Cal area I can take you to about 5 or 6 mosques and ever mullah will condem what happened. Furthermore even a coutnry in the axis of evil (Iran) had a national day of mourning. Pakistan had a day of mourning as well. Same with Arab Jordan (condmeed the attack but no day of mourning).
 
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evlstu    RE:evlstu to Pakistani   3/19/2002 2:14:33 AM
American, I just deal with more foreigners in one years than most Americans do in a lifetime.
 
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Pakistani    RE:evlstu to Pakistani   3/19/2002 12:12:44 PM
Know whats funny, A while ago Bush actually used the term Paki instead of Pakistani. I dont think he ment it as a racial slur... his lack of knowladge of anywhere outside texas is legendary. e.g "We must do all we can to help the country of Africa" and "More and more of our imports come from overseas". I think in his mind if Agfanistan has Agfans and Uzbezkistan has Uzbeks shouldn't Pakistan have Pakis? Its all rather amusing. The Pakistani embassy here lodged a complaint and Bush apologized saying he didnt know it was a slur.
 
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CP    RE:What Muslims need to know about Jews and Christans.   3/27/2002 9:25:10 AM
And the fatwah against Al Qaeda and Islamic terrorism for "perverting" the Koran was issued by? Just think, Salmon Rushdie could have been celebrated if only he blew himself up next to a Jewish mother and child, instead of writing a book and living the rest of his life in fear of the peaceful Muslims.
 
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Kalashnikov    RE:What Muslims need to know about Jews and Christans.   4/22/2003 3:48:25 PM
I believe it means that they lead a life according to Shari'a, the code of MUSLIM law. Not just righteous Christian or Jewish life.
 
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American Kafir    RE:What Muslims need to know about Jews and Christans.   4/22/2003 4:04:37 PM
>I believe it means that they lead a life according to Shari'a, the code of MUSLIM law. Not just righteous Christian or Jewish life.< Considering Muhammad himself killed or order killed many Jews who refused to acknowledge him as a "prophet," and that the Quran denies and contradicts the central tenet of the Christian faith - the death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth - one need only examine the Muslim doctrines against those who deny the validity of the Quran (kill them where you find them!) to see this attempt to pervert Muhammad's message of genocide into a message of peace are not true Muslims.
 
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Thomas    RE:What Muslims need to know about Jews and Christans.   5/20/2003 9:03:55 AM
To Pakistani I didn't know "paki" was a slur - I thought it meant "clean" in a spiritual way. It does so in Turkish as well.
 
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