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Subject: California Home of bad ideas
buzzard    5/20/2010 11:30:14 AM
h--p://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/capitolalertlatest/2010/05/proposition-14.html The above discusses a new Proposition (14) which will be put in front of CA voters this year. It will make it so that only the two top contenders in a new single primary will be on the election ballot, and it won't matter what party they happen to be from. Obviously this means that in a Democrat heavy district, only you will likely only see Democrats on the ballot, and vice versa for a GOP district. Only in California could the morons actually try to legislate one party rule.
 
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YelliChink       5/21/2010 5:47:45 PM
Once unabsorbed Mexican illegals and their decendents who think Kalifornia should be part of Mexico become dominant voting bloc in Kalifornia, it is actually possible for them to take a referendum on rejoin Mexico.
 
That may not be a bad idea to let the Mexicans have all the moonbats in San Franfreakshow, as long as the US keeps NM, AZ and TX. Just make Puerto Rico the new 50th State. When a moonbat tries to flee new Kalifornia of Mexico, catch them and then deport them back across the border.
 
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Photon       5/22/2010 4:49:19 PM
One expeditious way of unloading the racial issues in the Southwest is to re-draw the US borders.  Cede the Southwest back to Mexico.  Unless this happens, the Whites will have reckon with the Hispanics.  In the meantime, the Hispanics are the single fastest growing demographic group in the US.  Somewhere around 25% of the US population is projected to be Hispanics by 2050.  Not to mention that these anti-immigration crowd are clueless as hell:  Try to run US economy without migrant workers and see what happens.  As a nation, migrant workers have been boon to the US, yet some of us still whine and snivel about them.  Sheesh!
 
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warpig       5/23/2010 12:48:12 AM

Not to mention that these anti-immigration crowd are clueless as hell:  Try to run US economy without migrant workers and see what happens.  As a nation, migrant workers have been boon to the US, yet some of us still whine and snivel about them.  Sheesh!


Please point out any significant member or group among those who are "anti-immigration" who are against employment of migrant workers.  Of course, it would be more intellectually honest of you if the persons or groups you might manage to name are actually only anti-illegal immigration and not just merely "anti-immigration," since it is specifically and only *illegal* immigration that is the subject that is of any particular concern (as far as I can tell) to the large majority of anyone who is negatively concerned about any immigration issues at all.
 
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YelliChink       5/23/2010 3:44:38 AM
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Aussiegunneragain    Warpig   5/23/2010 5:25:45 AM


Please point out any significant member or group among those who are "anti-immigration" who are against employment of migrant workers.  Of course, it would be more intellectually honest of you if the persons or groups you might manage to name are actually only anti-illegal immigration and not just merely "anti-immigration," since it is specifically and only *illegal* immigration that is the subject that is of any particular concern (as far as I can tell) to the large majority of anyone who is negatively concerned about any immigration issues at all.
Our former Government got the same bullshit arguments coming from the left when they stopped illegal boat people coming to Australia. The fact that they ran the biggest legal immigration program in our history and the second to third biggest humanitarian transfer program in the world, after the US and sometimes Canada. We do have extreme right wing groups that do advocate cuts to all immigration on racist grounds (The One Nation party being the best example), but it is actually the left wing unions who push back against legal immigration the most because they don't want the competition for their members. The same left wingers seem to be a bit quieter about calling the current Labor government racist for adopting much the same illegal immigration policy as the former government, now that they have realised that the alternative doesn't work.
 
On the US, frankly I think nobody has any right to critisise your record on immigration whatsoever, you are the absolute World leaders in taking people from around the World and integrating them into your national life.
 
Anyway, the last clip on the roll down menu on Australian morning television show "The Insiders" this morning (titled "Predictions and Observations"). About a minute in, after a story about Kristina Keneally, the Vegas-born Premier of New South Wales (like a Governor in the US), there is an ad by Dale Peterson, the Republican candidate for the Agricultural commisioner in Alabama. I agree with his sentiments about illegal immigration but you might have a laugh at the expressions on the faces of the TV show panel, which is in reaction to the um, "robust" way that he does his ad. Its an interesting study in the differences in communication styles for the two countries to say the least http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emwink.gif" align="absMiddle" border="0" />.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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earlm       5/23/2010 11:45:05 AM
Don't respond to left wing trolls.  Especially ones who fault the US for taking the territory in the first place.  That is the crux of his point, that the US took the land unfailry and that any problems with immigration or racial issues are just desserts for the evil imperialist American scum.
 
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buzzard       5/24/2010 11:38:08 AM
One expeditious way of unloading the racial issues in the Southwest is to re-draw the US borders.  Cede the Southwest back to Mexico.  Unless this happens, the Whites will have reckon with the Hispanics.  In the meantime, the Hispanics are the single fastest growing demographic group in the US.  Somewhere around 25% of the US population is projected to be Hispanics by 2050. 
 
As with most of the knee jerk idiocy on the left, the reflexive assumption that everyone in a given ethnic group will go along with any plan proffered by their 'leadership' is utter nonsense.  To actually assume that La Raza represents anyone other than deluded leftist loons, is the height of idiocy. You will have a hard time finding a rational person in the Southwest who actually thinks Mexico would do a good job running the region. You will have an equally hard time finding anyone with a grasp of history who would imagine the region being nearly as prosperous had Mexico been running it since the 1840s.
 
Then of course there is that ultimate piece of nonsense to which you are ascribing. The very use of a term 'Hispanic' is so utterly specious as to be not worth of recognition. Considering what the term entails, anyone with a very basic grasp of geography and history would realize that it is a moronically over broad label. It's about as worthy as an assumption that all Europeans are the same and hold the same views. That is utter nonsense. Just because, say, Cubans and Mexicans speak the same language does not in any way make this terribly alike in politics, culture, or any other aspect of their outlook. Canadians generally get fairly riled when confused with Americans, and yet somehow we use a blanket term for people from a couple dozen nations as if they were all homogeneous. 
 
Not to mention that these anti-immigration crowd are clueless as hell:  Try to run US economy without migrant workers and see what happens.  As a nation, migrant workers have been boon to the US, yet some of us still whine and snivel about them.  Sheesh!
 
 This has already been addressed by others. Legal migrant works are not part of the concern of the majority of the anti-illegal immigration movement.
 
 
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WarNerd       5/25/2010 3:28:40 AM

We do have extreme right wing groups that do advocate cuts to all immigration on racist grounds (The One Nation party being the best example), but it is actually the left wing unions who push back against legal immigration the most because they don't want the competition for their members. The same left wingers seem to be a bit quieter about calling the current Labor government racist for adopting much the same illegal immigration policy as the former government, now that they have realised that the alternative doesn't work.

 

It the same just about anywhere.  The amazing thing is that the immigrants never seem to catch on.
p.s.  Thanks for the laugh.  http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emteeth.gif" alt="" />
 
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WarNerd       5/25/2010 3:35:41 AM

One expeditious way of unloading the racial issues in the Southwest is to re-draw the US borders.  Cede the Southwest back to Mexico.  Unless this happens, the Whites will have reckon with the Hispanics.  In the meantime, the Hispanics are the single fastest growing demographic group in the US.  Somewhere around 25% of the US population is projected to be Hispanics by 2050.  Not to mention that these anti-immigration crowd are clueless as hell:  Try to run US economy without migrant workers and see what happens.  As a nation, migrant workers have been boon to the US, yet some of us still whine and snivel about them.  Sheesh!

Interesting idea, but would you might defining what the Southwest includes?
Maybe we could start by ceding them all of California south of the Tehachapi Mountains (Los Angeles, San Diego, the Mojave Desert, etc.).  We will be keeping the water the area imports of course.
 
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Aussiegunneragain       5/25/2010 5:07:46 AM



We do have extreme right wing groups that do advocate cuts to all immigration on racist grounds (The One Nation party being the best example), but it is actually the left wing unions who push back against legal immigration the most because they don't want the competition for their members. The same left wingers seem to be a bit quieter about calling the current Labor government racist for adopting much the same illegal immigration policy as the former government, now that they have realised that the alternative doesn't work.

 It the same just about anywhere.  The amazing thing is that the immigrants never seem to catch on.

p.s.  Thanks for the laugh.  http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emteeth.gif" align="absMiddle" border="0" />



Not a problem http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emwink.gif" align="absMiddle" border="0" alt="" />.
 
Yeah I know, they latch on to the left wing like they are their saviours when in fact they are their worst enemy. 
 
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